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sammymcgoff Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4365 days ago 40 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 1 of 13 15 January 2013 at 3:18pm | IP Logged |
Once I have completed my Polish studies, I am thinking of taking up 3 further languages, which are Afrikaans, Romanian and Lithuanian. Which one of those would be easiest to learn after Polish for an English speaker in terms of:
1) Grammar
2) Pronunciation
3) Syntax
4) Anything else of note.
Thanks in advance,
Samantha
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| MarcusOdim Groupie Brazil Joined 4849 days ago 91 posts - 142 votes
| Message 2 of 13 15 January 2013 at 3:49pm | IP Logged |
Afrikaans
It's grammar seems very simplistic
Lithuanian's grammar is pretty tough, man
Romanian grammar may not be tough, but it's harder than Afrikaans
Afrikaans could be hard when it comes to resorces, it's a goddamn useless language.
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| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4690 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian
| Message 3 of 13 15 January 2013 at 4:38pm | IP Logged |
Only the OP knows how important these languages are to her. They're definitely all fairly obscure and
geographically concentrated, but all very useful within their respective communities and spoken by millions.
Learning Afrikaans well would also make Dutch somewhat understandable without further study.
Yes, Afrikaans is very likely to be the most intuitive to a native English speaker by a good bit. Thereafter, I suspect
Romanian grammar and vocabulary should be more transparent to a native English speaker with no prior exposure
to either. Experience with Latin or a Romance language would weigh in favor of Romanian, as well.
That said, I would recommend going for what really means something to you. Think about why you're interested in
these languages, and go with what is going to be most useful and most meaningful to you. None of them are going
to be effortless, and none are impossible, either.
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| sammymcgoff Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4365 days ago 40 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 4 of 13 15 January 2013 at 4:49pm | IP Logged |
geoffw wrote:
Only the OP knows how important these languages are to her. They're definitely all fairly obscure and
geographically concentrated, but all very useful within their respective communities and spoken by millions.
Learning Afrikaans well would also make Dutch somewhat understandable without further study.
Yes, Afrikaans is very likely to be the most intuitive to a native English speaker by a good bit. Thereafter, I suspect
Romanian grammar and vocabulary should be more transparent to a native English speaker with no prior exposure
to either. Experience with Latin or a Romance language would weigh in favor of Romanian, as well.
That said, I would recommend going for what really means something to you. Think about why you're interested in
these languages, and go with what is going to be most useful and most meaningful to you. None of them are going
to be effortless, and none are impossible, either. |
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I did study French and Spanish at high school,so maybe that could help with Romanian?
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| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4690 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian
| Message 5 of 13 15 January 2013 at 4:53pm | IP Logged |
Yes, that should buy you some extra cognate vocabulary with Romanian, though far less than with Italian,
Portuguese or Catalan. With Afrikaans you get a lot of cognates from English.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 6 of 13 15 January 2013 at 5:02pm | IP Logged |
Yes, this will help with Romanian!!! it also has a Slavic flavour with which Polish will help you :) (and the experience with the case system will help the same way Latin would)
It's also a lovely language, and probably the most widespread on the net out of these. The Romanians are like Russians and there's a lot of stuff you can get for free, not very legally. Well, I suppose the Lithuanians are like that too but I've not come across almost any fun stuff in it.
I hope I'm wrong but I think resources-wise the situation is the worst with Lithuanian.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 7 of 13 15 January 2013 at 5:04pm | IP Logged |
geoffw wrote:
Yes, that should buy you some extra cognate vocabulary with Romanian, though far less than with Italian, Portuguese or Catalan. |
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I wouldn't say it's far less. Apart from the etymological cognates Romanian also has loan words from French and probably Italian.
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| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4690 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian
| Message 8 of 13 15 January 2013 at 5:20pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
geoffw wrote:
Yes, that should buy you some extra cognate vocabulary with Romanian,
though far less than with Italian, Portuguese or Catalan. |
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I wouldn't say it's far less. Apart from the
etymological cognates Romanian also has loan words from French and probably Italian. |
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I don't have much experience with Romanian, so I'm not going to argue. I've heard tell about how the Romanians
got geographically isolated from the other Romance-language-speaking peoples and ended up with a more
distinctive language influenced by the geographically closer Slavs, but that's all rumour as far as I'm concerned,
and nothing I've verified myself.
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