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| josh_badgley Newbie United States Joined 4233 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese | Message 1 of 20 14 May 2013 at 11:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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Okay, well as it turns out I am not as smart as I thought I was. I admit it. As much
as I wanted (and still want) to learn Russian, it turns out that it wasn't the best language to start out with, at least for me. After about a month, it has thoroughly kicked my butt. So I'm going to put a pin in that and save it for later when I'm more experienced. Since I've only managed to learn Spanish to any level proficiency, and since the only other Romance language that interests me is Portuguese, I decided to study Portuguese exclusively and intensively for at least the next 3 months and see how far I get before I attempt another more difficult language. I have always loved the way Portuguese looks and sounds, and I have already noticed the extreme leg up my Spanish has given me. I couldn't afford to buy another Assimil book at this point, so I've settled for Teach Yourself Portuguese and Colloquial Portuguese, which actually works out well because I'm focusing on European Portuguese right now. I would eventually like to develop an ear for the Brazilian variety, but culturally Portugal interests me more and I like the sound of Luso-African Portuguese much better. I'm on Lesson 3 of the Colloquial course and the Teach Yourself book and CDs should be here on Thursday. I also have a copy of Teach Yourself Portuguese Grammar, and I've been watching a lot of RTP and TVI as well as reading Diário de Notícias,Correo da Manhã and other Portuguese newspapers online. I'm trying my best to do an All Portuguese All The Time type immersion method. I'm going to try to use as much Portuguese as I know so this will also function as a kind of diary. And please, correct me wherever I need it! Edited by josh_badgley on 25 May 2013 at 12:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josh_badgley Newbie United States Joined 4233 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese | Message 2 of 20 16 May 2013 at 12:36am | IP Logged | ||
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Hoje estudei o português na manhã. Comi o meu pequeno-almorço e trabalhei. Fui ao ginásio.
That's about it right now. I did an hour out of the Colloquial course and I would like to get in another our before dinner in the Teach Yourself course. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4849 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 3 of 20 16 May 2013 at 2:05am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm glad to see another Portuguese log here!
From what I hear, Portuguese is a different "animal" from Spanish, but seeing that you know a lot of Spanish, with the similarities in vocabulary that should help you a lot. Boa sorte! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josh_badgley Newbie United States Joined 4233 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese | Message 4 of 20 16 May 2013 at 2:22am | IP Logged | ||
Obrigadinho kujichagulia Yes, Spanish has a different feel to it, but one really helps learning the other. Of course, I'm trying to keep in mind that they are both separate languages and should be respected in their own right, but it's hard not to get excited when I look at a Portuguese newspaper and understand so much of it after less than a week of formal study. The spoken language is a different matter altogether. Spanish is much clearer to my ear, but I am trying to expose myself to as much Porgtuese as possible and it's getting clearer. I think Portuguese tends to be smoother and more of the words run together than Spanish, which has a kind of machine-gun like quality to it which perhaps makes it easier to understand. All in all, it's been very enjoyable. I plan on tackling Catalan and French in the future and I really think it's going to be a fascinating journey. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5377 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 5 of 20 16 May 2013 at 2:57am | IP Logged | ||
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I am interested in following your log. I have sometimes thought about seeing how well I could pick up some Portuguese.
Are you aware of FSI's From Spanish to Portuguese? It is a free course focused on leveraging Spanish knowledge in the study of Portuguese. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josh_badgley Newbie United States Joined 4233 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese | Message 6 of 20 16 May 2013 at 3:10am | IP Logged | ||
Yes I am aware of it, but I have never actually looked at it. I am pretty dissapointed that FSI focuses on Brazilian Portuguese...I mean, I get it (200 million speakers!), but I still wish I had an intensive European Portuguese course. Depending on your level of Spanish, I'd say you could pick up written Portuguese rather quickly. I'm by no means fluent in Spanish, but I can pretty much understand whatever I read and hear. The spoken language may pose some difficulties, but I really think it's a matter of getting the ear trained. I prefer TV and radio. I have heard (but can't confirm) that Brazilian Portuguese is "easier" to understand than European. I only study European Portuguese because I'm more interested in the culture and I like the sound better. If you want, you can check out http://www.rtp.pt. Go to the TV or radio section and choose EM DIRETO. I noticed that while watching the news, I could understand a little of the spoken language at first, but I could pretty well read the headlines at the bottom of the screen. I think with between 3 or 6 months one could transition from Spanish to Portuguese quite well, at least that's my goal! Edited by josh_badgley on 16 May 2013 at 3:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josh_badgley Newbie United States Joined 4233 days ago 33 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese | Message 7 of 20 17 May 2013 at 1:37am | IP Logged | ||
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I worked through the end of Unit 1 and almost finished Unit 2 of Teach Yourself Portuguese. I can honestly say that, so far, I like the Colloquial course better. It just seems to be more serious...it only has 14 units, but Teach Yourself's 25 or so seem padded out. It's still a fine course, and a little bit more user-friendly than Teach Yourself, but I'm glad I have both. One advantage Teach Yourself has is that the audio alternates between European and Brazilian pronunciation so that I can train my ear to understand both. It also has a more detailed pronunciation guide, located in the back. The exercises seem sillier but practice is practice. I'm watching Portuguese TV right now and I'll watch more this evening. Boa noite! Edited by josh_badgley on 17 May 2013 at 1:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4849 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 8 of 20 17 May 2013 at 7:04am | IP Logged | ||
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RTP is awesome! There is no dedicated Brazilian counterpart online, so I find myself listening to and watching RTP often. For some reason, I particularly like the RTP Africa services.
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