Po-ru Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5466 days ago 173 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish, Norwegian, Mandarin, French
| Message 1 of 67 05 December 2010 at 7:13pm | IP Logged |
Which resource do you think is better for language learning and learning overall in
general? I have heard that newer iPads have a kindle application built into them, so I
am assuming that the iPad would logically be the more useful resource.
What is your opinion?
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Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5507 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish*
| Message 2 of 67 05 December 2010 at 7:36pm | IP Logged |
I have neither, but I have been investigating this a bit, so here goes:
I suppose it will partly depend on what language you want to study. There is an excellent iPhone and iPad app for Mandarin called Pleco, and hundreds of other resources for languages. The sound player support is excellent. You can watch movies on the iPad and surf websites, there ares some especially useful popup dictionary type websites you could visit (not sure if Safari supports them though).
In my mind the only upside to the Kindle is the lower price and the longer battery life. And, if you want to read outdoors, the kindle screen is much better.
There could actually be a case for getting a PC based tablet computer, where you could install popup dictionaries. This kind of functionality is sort of blocked on the iPad right now, except through webpages.
My parting thought is that if the price, screen and battery don't put you off, iPad is the better choice. There are hundreds of new apps appearing every day, so chances are pretty good that youäll find what youäre looking for. You can check out the repertoire before buying, too.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5116 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 3 of 67 05 December 2010 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
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My parting thought is that if the price, screen and battery don't put you off, iPad is the better choice. There are hundreds of new apps appearing every day, so chances are pretty good that youäll find what youäre looking for. You can check out the repertoire before buying, too. |
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This whole market is so new and changing daily, iPad's substantial market lead notwithstanding.
The same could be said of any of the android devices coming out. I think there's also a new Color Nook.
In any case, you have much more of a choice of just the iPad or a Kindle.
R.
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Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5507 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish*
| Message 4 of 67 05 December 2010 at 8:32pm | IP Logged |
Well, there many more iPad apps than android apps, not to mention nook, and it will very likely remain that way for some time.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5116 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 5 of 67 05 December 2010 at 10:40pm | IP Logged |
Gusutafu wrote:
Well, there many more iPad apps than android apps, not to mention nook, and it will very likely remain that way for some time. |
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I see this comment frequently on tech sites. I'll go ahead and parrot a response I also frequently see, because I really believe it: Quantity does not equal quality. If there are 50 audio-listening apps available, are you automatically going to need and/or use them all?
In any case, choice is always good.
R.
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Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5100 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine)
| Message 6 of 67 06 December 2010 at 2:23pm | IP Logged |
The very small memory space available on the Kindle really puts me off it. I'd go for the Sony PRS 650 if looking for an e-reader because you can take notes and import them on your laptop. Doesn't have the Internet, but then again, I don't really expect my grammar books to let me access Facebook when learning!
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rad Newbie United States Joined 5600 days ago 18 posts - 23 votes Speaks: French
| Message 7 of 67 06 December 2010 at 2:47pm | IP Logged |
I have a Kindle, do not have an iPad, but I do have an iTouch. iPad does not have Kindle app built in, but you can download it.
The two are not really comparable. I don't think the Kindle is particularly good for learning languages. I've read some French and some German on it from gutenberg. Other foreign scripts do not work, although I think the Kindle 3 includes more alphabets. Language books are available, but an actual book works much better.
iThings have the advantage of more easily available podcasts, courses from universities, many flashcard programs. They do support multiple languages.
Jean
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tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5852 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 8 of 67 06 December 2010 at 3:06pm | IP Logged |
Gusutafu wrote:
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The Sony 650 has 5 very good bilingual pop-up dictionaries (English to/from German, French, Spanish, Italian and Dutch). I read some blogs where some people tried unsuccessfully to add other dictionaries. Maybe Sony will do it. In any case, there is lots of memory to add text dictionaries (bilingual word lists) for any language. Not pop-up but quite usable.
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