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Hendrek Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4868 days ago 152 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Persian
| Message 41 of 43 15 November 2011 at 8:33pm | IP Logged |
It seems to me that there are a few hurdles to get past to speak fluently, and in addition to vocabulary, grammar, etc., there is also likely a real physical hurdle: training your mouth to make the sounds without too much fatigue. For instance, in Italian, one speaks with a much more open mouth than in English, and the tongue rolls are really exhausting without practice (when I began it seemed like little more than a giant tongue twister). So pronouncing the words is like a physical workout in that respect. I don't know how important that really is overall, but I think it's helpful.
Also, I would imagine there's some assitance to the memory as well from speaking while reading. Similar to how listening while reading helps retention... at least for me.
Yes, one should be able to pronounce well enough before practicing, to avoid establishing bad habits too much (IMO). Edit: That's actually the biggest reason I'm glad I began with Pimsleur before moving into MT. I feel like my pronuciation is better for it (and Italians have said that I speak with a pretty good accent).
Edited by Hendrek on 15 November 2011 at 8:36pm
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| fiziwig Senior Member United States Joined 4851 days ago 297 posts - 618 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 42 of 43 15 November 2011 at 11:41pm | IP Logged |
Hendrek wrote:
It seems to me that there are a few hurdles to get past to speak fluently, and in addition to vocabulary, grammar, etc., there is also likely a real physical hurdle: training your mouth to make the sounds without too much fatigue. |
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Yes. This is exactly why I read aloud. The more often I speak the sounds of my target language the easier it is for my mouth to produce those sounds.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6895 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 43 of 43 15 November 2011 at 11:48pm | IP Logged |
I'm just confirming that the term extensive reading was in use when I was in high school (early nineties).
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