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| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6004 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 1 of 16 13 November 2011 at 1:46am | IP Logged | ||
want better X lang skills? start gaming :P
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| ember Triglot Groupie CyprusRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5338 days ago 63 posts - 101 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, German Studies: Spanish, French, Greek, Polish | Message 2 of 16 13 November 2011 at 1:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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That's true, and not only in Finland. My younger brother learnt English almost entirely
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| fomalhaut Groupie United States Joined 4838 days ago 80 posts - 101 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 3 of 16 13 November 2011 at 2:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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yeah, as an English native speaker seeing the huge advantage everyone else has in learning my language makes me not surprised they're all so skilled. It's a HUGE disadvantage for me though, as I can't do the same thing for other languages (most games get pathetic excuses for localizations)
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 4 of 16 13 November 2011 at 4:14pm | IP Logged | ||
Typical press hyperbole...
Nope, they're proving to be good English practice. The quotes don't seem to suggest that the school was unimportant, but the article overstates the case. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6517 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 5 of 16 13 November 2011 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | ||
If Finland is anything like Sweden (and I'm pretty sure it is), exposure to English starts well before English education in school. In fact, it starts in ages where you're still in the "learn languages really fast without instruction" stage. I think for a lot of people (but not everyone, of course), school English really is quite unimportant, because by the time they start formal study of English, they've already acquired a basic framework, and they're busy picking up new vocabulary through context. I know this is really hard to judge for myself, and I might be very wrong here, but I honestly don't think my English instruction in school affected my learning of the language to a large degree. It's hard to imagine for native English speakers just how omnipresent English is over here. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4944 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 6 of 16 14 November 2011 at 4:09am | IP Logged | ||
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Guess where I learnt most of my English. (a text based multiplayer RPG)
It was much more than "just practice". Sure, having some grammar base helped but that's quite all. I got a lot of exposure. I've had great motivation and lots of opportunities to write either longer texts or my part of dialogue in real time. I learnt a lot of vocabulary (not only I can name more medieval weapons in English than in Czech but tons of useful vocabulary as well) and to use grammar (even though I make stupid mistakes from time to time), idioms, common phrases and some informal language as well. School taught me perhaps one tenth of my English but that could have been acquired in shorter time (and with less stress, anger and even tears) with a good textbbok and grammar book instead of classes. And most importantly, I have learnt to think in the language. For listening practice, there were mostly films and tv series with subtitles (text games have some limits in this area :-) ) The game had taught me approximately 80% of what I used in my CAE exam. So, if you know about something like that in my other target languages, please tell me. I have Age of Empires in French (perhaps could switch to Spanish or German as well) but that is not sufficient. Free, multiplayer, rpg games are the best in my opinion. But those are only in English, I'm afraid. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6004 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 7 of 16 14 November 2011 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | ||
english, japanese, korean and chinese (mandarin I guess) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6532 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 8 of 16 20 November 2011 at 4:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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My cousin's English hasn't improved yet through games... But he plays with his Russian friends, and omg they pronounce so many words incorrectly. It might help his passive skills but I doubt he'd be able to use any of the words in English. But of course the movies are dubbed here, and he's not exactly motivated to learn English (even though we've been to Finland several times and English is no longer such an abstract thing for him.)
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