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| hypersport Senior Member United States Joined 5816 days ago 216 posts - 307 votes  Studies: Spanish | Message 17 of 70 18 November 2011 at 5:07am | IP Logged | ||
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Arekkusu:
Personally if I read silently I can hear my own voice when I'm reading the same as when I'm speaking. When I first started reading books in Spanish I noticed that if I read silently, I wasn't focused on nailing the accent or the pronunciation. I could here my voice the way it sounds when I speak English as I read the Spanish. I could mispronounce a word here and there but I would just continue on with the story. I understood that I was understanding what I was reading, but I also recognized that I was wasting an opportunity to work on the speaking part of it. So I started reading out loud trying to read as if a native speaker was listening to me. I wanted to make sure that I would be understood so I paid close attention to what I was doing and repeated stuff that gave me problems. Stuff that I knew needed work. Reading silently if you slip here or there you can just keep cruising, enjoying the story. But out loud, if it matters to you, you will go back and re-read things that you know aren't sounding good enough. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6517 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 18 of 70 18 November 2011 at 7:00am | IP Logged | ||
You notice, of course, that Cainntear has two and a half thousand usefulness votes. Edited by Ari on 18 November 2011 at 9:38am 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| biki2 Diglot Groupie United States vatoweb.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6957 days ago 57 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Arabic (Written), Catalan, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 19 of 70 18 November 2011 at 8:51am | IP Logged | ||
My father used to be a professional radio announcer, and he once told me they learn to read slightly ahead of their voice for precisely the reason you site -- so they don't mess up the intonation. It is definitely a specialized skill that doesn't come naturally to most people. Edited by biki2 on 18 November 2011 at 8:53am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5701 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 20 of 70 18 November 2011 at 10:23am | IP Logged | ||
I tend to believe so too, and then I really read aloud and have to realize I can't pronounce vehicle correctly or mess up the stress on 'chief executive' because I don't treat it as one prosodic word. Edited by Bao on 18 November 2011 at 6:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6040 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 21 of 70 18 November 2011 at 10:37am | IP Logged | ||
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I read aloud, but the problem is that I'm concentrating so hard on pronunciation that I
miss most of the meaning. Even with texts where I know many of the words, this happens. Consequently I have to read the passage again, silently, in order to grasp what it's saying. My brain can't cope with reading aloud yet, it wants to choose between concentrating on pronunciation or comprehension. I hope my brain will eventually learn to process simultaneously. Not having practice in speech or conversation may have something to do with it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Hendrek Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4817 days ago 152 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Persian | Message 22 of 70 18 November 2011 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | ||
This is one of the most polite and useful sites I've come across. Let's keep it that way. I see this place as a spontaneous grassroots research center into the best practices of language learning, so nitpicking theoretical issues is not necessarily a bad thing, it's often just thoughtfulness in practice. I've waded through a lot of these discussions while trying to figure out what approaches to take, and most often, they are very helpful for understanding what might or might not work well for me. Edit to add: your description above about hearing an inner voice while reading silently is exactly my experience as well (even in L1, though I can often "turn off" the inner voice if I'm in a hurry to read faster than speech). My inner monologue tends to be very clear, almost like I'm listening to it from the outside, so I do experience the same pronunciation thoughts. Edited by Hendrek on 18 November 2011 at 1:06pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5365 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 23 of 70 18 November 2011 at 1:14pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm always amazed at what Cainntear comes up with. But this is a democracy, and freedom of speech is a fundamental right. It's quite plain that nearly everybody else thinks that reading aloud is a good idea, for all the reasons that have already been given. There are a few points that I would like to make, however. One must not confuse written and spoken language. Unless you are reading passages of dialogues, the prose you are reading is not really the language of conversations or speeches. In fact, and depending on the genre, written fiction is far removed from everyday speech. In French for example, there are certain tenses like the simple past or the imperfect subjunctive that are common in fiction but extremely rare in the spoken language. If you're especially interested the spoken language, you may want to consider other genres besides novels. I've found transcripts of speeches very useful, especially if you can get the recordings. With a bit of snooping on the internet, I have found transcripts of speeches by Spanish politicians. Regardless of what you may think of his politics, President Obama is a fabulous speaker and printed version of many of his speeches are freely available. This is like karaoke. Comic books are excellent sources of examples of spoken language. Often the typography gives visual clues to the intonation. You may also want to consider reading plays. They are meant for the spoken voice and recordings are often available. You would probably want to choose modern plays with more contemporary language rather than something like Shakespeare or Molière. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6485 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 24 of 70 18 November 2011 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | ||
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Sometimes I assign a voice to the author. I read out loud all the time, if I'm by myself. I find it very useful. But not in English or Spanish. I have reached my goals in those languages. To me, continuing to use a learning technique like this after one has reached their desired level is a waste of time. I prefer to use the language in the same way a native would. There is a time to wean oneself off of all learning techniques like reading out loud, flashcards, textbooks, etc. I recommend maintaining the language by doing what you learned it for. Maintain it by using it. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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