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s0fist Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4981 days ago 260 posts - 445 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Sign Language, German, Spanish, French
| Message 9 of 14 01 December 2011 at 2:39pm | IP Logged |
A while back I did some napkin math, thought I'd share.
Percentages: listening*, reading**, writing, speaking***
Russian: 66%, 12%, 9%, 13% (native, 16+ years in Russia, ~120,000 hours)
English: 76%, 10%, 6%, 8% (near native, 10+ years in the U.S., ~60,000 hours)
German: 53%, 25%, 16%, 6% (formal learning, very low level, ~750 hours)
Spanish: 75%, 25%, 0%, 0% (informal studies, low level, ~750 hours)
* Listening includes everything, not just formal or directed studies, which is why it
dominates so much in the long run in my figures.
** Reading tends to beat listening in the middle phase of learning in school or in my
self-directed studies, especially if audio/video media isn't readily available.
*** Speaking percentages are probably lower than average due to personality, but also
seem to correlate with expertise in the language.
I'd venture to guess that on a typical day a very comfortable ratio for me is
75-85% input(LR) vs 15-25% output(WS) : avg 4 times more I than O
50-60% listening and 15-25% reading : avg 3 times more L than R
5-10% writing and 10-15% speaking : avg 1.75 times more S than W
plus or minus 5% here or there on any given day or even week.
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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4844 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 10 of 14 01 December 2011 at 7:14pm | IP Logged |
s0fist wrote:
Russian: 66%, 12%, 9%, 13% (native, 16+ years in Russia, ~120,000 hours)
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Are you sure about the hours? 120,000 hours = 5000 days. At 16 years, that would mean 20.5 hours of study a day! Impressive!
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| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4794 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish
| Message 11 of 14 01 December 2011 at 7:47pm | IP Logged |
Hmm, it depends on the language. In languages in which I have several language lessons during the week (mainly Bulgarian and Persian, 4 and 5 hours, respectively) I speak a lot and speaking is definitely more than 25% of overall skills In English I guess it's not more than 2% (but also because I read a lot in English - everybody knows that we can not rum from it nowadays). The rest of them are not spoken very often by me.
I listen to Czech radio the most, so it's, I guess 80-90% of my time spent with Czech. Less frequently I listen to Bulgarian and Russian radio, the rest - hardly.
If it comes to writing, I generally don't write very often (except my activity on Polish and English forums), but if I do, I write mostly in Bulgarian and, surprisingly, in German.
Though I would like to change these statistics a bit.
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| NickJS Senior Member United Kingdom flickr.com/photos/sg Joined 4894 days ago 264 posts - 334 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese
| Message 12 of 14 02 December 2011 at 1:41am | IP Logged |
Reading - 20%
Speaking - 15%
Listening - 60%
Writing - 5%
Should really focus more on writing and speaking, but that is currently down to finding
time in the day to do those things, although I feel listening is very important and I
have that take up a big slot of my time.
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| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6004 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 13 of 14 03 December 2011 at 6:33am | IP Logged |
first wave
Reading: 65%
Listening: 10%
Writing 20% (chat, email)
Speaking : 5%
second wave
Reading: 30%
Listening: 45%
Writing 10%
Speaking : 15%
third one
Reading: 20%
Listening: 30%
Writing 10%
Speaking : 40%
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| Guido Super Polyglot Senior Member ArgentinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6463 days ago 286 posts - 582 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Catalan, Dutch, Swedish, Danish Studies: Russian, Indonesian, Romanian, Polish, Icelandic
| Message 14 of 14 03 December 2011 at 9:50am | IP Logged |
Listening (and watching TV): 50%
Reading: 45%
Speaking: 5%
Writing: 0%
My future plans look like this:
Listening: 40%
Reading: 30%
Speaking: 40%
Writing: 0%
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