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| Spinchäeb Ape Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4472 days ago 146 posts - 180 votes  Speaks: English*, German | Message 9 of 16 01 December 2012 at 5:38pm | IP Logged | ||
Sounds like "c'est suffisant" may be about equivalent to our English, "it's sufficient." 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| FELlX Diglot Groupie France Joined 4772 days ago 94 posts - 149 votes Speaks: French*, English | Message 10 of 16 02 December 2012 at 1:33am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, it is. "Ça suffit !" means "Enough!".
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5011 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 11 of 16 02 December 2012 at 3:50am | IP Logged | ||
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Don't trust the google translator, unless you want to sound like a buggy machine mixed
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| Spinchäeb Ape Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4472 days ago 146 posts - 180 votes Speaks: English*, German | Message 12 of 16 02 December 2012 at 9:36am | IP Logged | ||
I don't. I know to take what it suggests with a grain of salt. It almost always gets very simple stuff right like "I have a cat," but as language gets more complex, the quality of GT's results go down. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6705 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 16 03 December 2012 at 11:23am | IP Logged | ||
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Use Google (with caution) from another language into your own, because there you can normally see when something has gone terribly wrong. Using it in the other direction is at your own peril.
As for *"c'est suffit" I have looked through the first four pages of Google hits, and my general impression is that most of the responsable writers are foreigners battling with the French language (and its orthography): o my cafe latte 10.02.03 : huit, c'est suffit Alors si je le traduis en anglais, est-ce que c'est suffit d'écrire quelquechose comme "ne sachant pas conjuger les verbes correctement." ? Sometimes the "c'est" and the "suffit" belong to different phrases: j'ai un sujet de dissertation a fair mais j'arrive pas a démarrer le sujet c'est: "suffit- il-d'être doué pour être artiste?" j'aimerais avoir un pe ud'aide The only slim chance that any construction with "c'est suffit" might be uttered by a native Frenchman would be in a construction derived from the word "suffit" in isolation, but I have yet to see an example which with total certainty is produced by a native speaker. c'est suffit. bye bye beast Edited by Iversen on 04 December 2012 at 1:37pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4446 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 14 of 16 04 December 2012 at 10:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Did someone say Google?
Based on personal experience someone at work came from a French-speaking country Tunisia when he was very young. There was a training manual that needs to be translated from English to French. The guy did the whole document with Google translate and the people who know French at work laughed. The words may be correct but used in all sorts of context unrelated to what a paragraph is about. Recently I got a letter translated from Chinese to English. A word: 打風 (dafeng). A fairly fluent Chinese person would know I'm referring: "to be hit by a storm". On Google it came out as "fighting the wind". Google translate for single words probably but don't count on it for complete paragraphs. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Spinchäeb Ape Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4472 days ago 146 posts - 180 votes Speaks: English*, German | Message 15 of 16 04 December 2012 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've found some limited usefulness with Google Translate (and Bing Translate) when working with the Pimsleur recordings. The people on the recording will say a phrase in English and then in French. I can put the English into GT and it will usually be the same as what they're saying in French. This is working because 1. They're very simple phrases and 2. I can usually tell whether it's right because I can hear the audio French on the recording.
I really wish Pimsleur had just provided transcripts, but for whatever reason, they don't believe in that. It is a good learning tool overall. I like it. It's just not the complete package. (I don't believe anything is.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| lecavaleur Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4779 days ago 146 posts - 295 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish | Message 16 of 16 09 December 2012 at 2:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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I can't tell if this has been sufficiently established on this thread yet, but I just
want everyone to be assured that "c'est suffit" does NOT exist. You can't put a verb conjugated into the 3rd person present form after the word "c'est". It would be the equivalent of "this is suffices", and just wouldn't make sense at all. It's either "Ça suffit" or "C'est suffisant", which, as someone else already explained, are not necessarily used interchangeably. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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