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| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4612 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek | Message 9 of 12 13 December 2012 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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There are many Low German Mennonites in Ontario, Canada. I don't know much about their
language but here is a page with links to words and phrases: http://mcco.ca/lowgerman/relating/communication 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fnord Triglot Groupie Switzerland Joined 5035 days ago 71 posts - 124 votes Speaks: German*, Swiss-German, English Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch | Message 10 of 12 13 December 2012 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | ||
Just spent a few minutes watching some of the Deitsch Web-TV videos. Not unexpectedly, it sounded like some hybrid between German and American English to me. As a native speaker of (standard) German, I understood most but not everything of it. However, I had to concentrate hard on the conversation. At times, I found it a little bit hard to keep up with the conversation. The frequent code-switching and borrowing from English threw me off a bit. I also found the American accent very strong. It if, of course, unlike any other (European) variety of German that I'm accustomed with. I believe comprehension would get much easier after a few hours of "tuning in" to it. That being said, I am not sure how much the average German speaker would get. Having learnt two related L2 languages (English, Swiss-German) certainly helped me a lot - as did my comprehension skills in Luxembourgish. The latter should be most closely related to Pennsylvania Dutch. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6705 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 12 14 December 2012 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | ||
That sounds like reasonable explanation. But the consequence then is that Pennsylvanian Dietsch behaves like Dutch, standard High German, Schwäbisch and Austrian etc., but NOT as standard Low German (or Platt), where the ge- simply isn't used. Edited by Iversen on 14 December 2012 at 2:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4523 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 12 of 12 14 December 2012 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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On the German wikipedia page about Pennsylvania Dutch it is written that most of the first speakers were from the Pfalz region in Germany (and therefore speaking 'pfälzischen Dialekt'). This is a Middle German dialect, and those dialects are High German (but words often look like those in Low German, because the sound shift wasn't always done where it theoretically should be in a High German dialect). So having ge- for participles makes sense.
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