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Spinchäeb Ape
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 Message 17 of 21
17 December 2012 at 12:42pm | IP Logged 
lecavaleur wrote:

I'm a fan of Déclin de l'empire américain. It was nominated for an Oscar (as was
Incendies, btw). The sequal to Déclin was called "Les invasion barbares" and included
almost all the same characters twenty years later. It is an amazing movie and it won
the Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film in 2004.

Déclin is a dialogue-based film. If you're looking for explosions and car chases, it's
probably not for you, and French-language movies in general will probably disappoint
you.

My advice is to give Déclin another try once you are comfortable enough in French to
watch films without subtitles.


By action I don't mean explosions and car chases, although that's one type of action. I mean something interesting happens and then that leads to something related happening and that leads to more interesting developments, etc. In other words, a plot builds. For example, a man suspects his wife is cheating, so he hires a detective to follow her. The detective discovers she's not cheating, but is meeting with an underground organization that illegally steals babies and puts them up for illegal adoption. He then discovers that she's accumulated a secret bank account from these activities. It's a plot in which one thing builds on the next. I felt like there was no plot in Déclin. To me it seemed like a bunch of men cooking a meal while babbling on about sex in ways I didn't find interesting; then they cut to women working out in a gym also prattling on about sex. I just got bored. After an hour of that, I shut it off. I read that after all those talky scenes the men and women meet and have diner. Perhaps the plot starts there, but I felt like an hour was too long to bore me. I read reviews at Amazon. Some people felt like I did, but others did enjoy the movie. It might be a film that's not for everyone. As you said, I can always give it another try some other time. Maybe I'll like it more after my French is better. I do have Les invasion barbares. I'm hesitant to watch it since I disliked the first film so much.

Here are the French (from France) films that I recommend.

Belle de Jour (1967) -- a classic, my fav French film of all time. There are some disturbing situations in it and a modicum of nudity, so it may not be for everyone. I loved it.

Les yeux sans visage (1960) This is a really interesting French science fiction film that has things to say about ethics and greed.

Le Chant des mariées (2008)
This one is in both French and Arabic. It's about a Muslim girl and a Jewish one who are good friends in 1942 in Nazi-occupied Tunesia. It's an amazing film. I highly recommend it.

Le Samouraï (1967) A crime drama by Jean-Pierre Melville

Sex Is Comedy (2002) This is my favorite Catherine Breillat film. The title is a little deceiving. It's really not a sexual comedy with lots of laughs. There are some laughs, but it's really about a director of a film who needs to film a powerful sex scene even though her leading actor and her leading actress can't stand each other. It's amazing the lengths she goes through to get a quality scene. This one has lots of nudity and sexual situations as you should expect, so if that offends you, it's not the film for you.

Monsieur Hire (1989) This is the story of a lonely anti-social man who stalks a beautiful young woman, then gets accused of murdering a different woman. The woman is not bothered by his stalking and acts like an exhibitionist and then gets into a relationship with him. There's terrific suspense and plot twists in this one, and it hits you in your emotional gut. Highly recommended.

Water Lilies (2007) This is a sexual coming of age film about three 15 year-old girls and the conflicts it creates between these three friends. It has some sexual content among very young girls and is therefore likely to be disturbing to some viewers. It's not for everyone. (The actresses are actually older than 15.) It works well dramatically.

Lila dit ça (Lila Says) (2004) This is the story of a romantic relationship between a sexy trouble-making French girl and a Muslim-French boy who has some crooked and violent friends and the tension it causes between them. It has sexual content, so it's not for those who don't like that.

Le Havre (2011) This is the story of an elderly French man and his wife in a port city in France who help an illegal immigrant who the police are after. He has to deal with his wife being ill and with protecting the boy. It's touching. I also like that this film has a music scene in a pub in which they used a local French band (Little Bob) instead of courting some major star.

Those are my recommendations. In my opinion these are all very high quality films. They've helped me in my study of French because it's a lot easier when you're enjoying the film.
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17 December 2012 at 1:38pm | IP Logged 
I enjoyed Monsieur Hire, too. I'll have to check out those others.
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 Message 19 of 21
17 December 2012 at 2:31pm | IP Logged 
Spinchäeb Ape wrote:
Here are the French (from France) films that I recommend.

Belle de Jour (1967) -- a classic, my fav French film of all time. There are some
disturbing situations in it and a modicum of nudity, so it may not be for everyone.
I loved it.

Great movie. The director, Luis Buñuel, was Spanish (from my area, actually).

I don't know the other films, but I'll watch them in due time.

This weekend I watched Incendies. I liked the movie, but I had to use
subtitles. Unfortunately I'm not yet ready for native films. :-(

A couple of movies you might enjoy:
  • La Haine (Mathieu Kassovitz, 1995)

  • Ça commence aujourd'hui (Bertrand Tavernier, 1999)

  • La Belle Verte (Coline Serreau, 1996)



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lecavaleur
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17 December 2012 at 5:27pm | IP Logged 
Spinchäeb Ape wrote:

Le Samouraï (1967) A crime drama by Jean-Pierre Melville


I love this one. It's very esthetically pleasing, very interesting. I love how the people
are dressed.

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Spinchäeb Ape
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 Message 21 of 21
18 December 2012 at 1:56am | IP Logged 
Quique wrote:
Spinchäeb Ape wrote:
Here are the French (from France) films that I recommend.

Belle de Jour (1967) -- a classic, my fav French film of all time. There are some
disturbing situations in it and a modicum of nudity, so it may not be for everyone.
I loved it.

Great movie. The director, Luis Buñuel, was Spanish (from my area, actually).

I don't know the other films, but I'll watch them in due time.

This weekend I watched Incendies. I liked the movie, but I had to use
subtitles. Unfortunately I'm not yet ready for native films. :-(

A couple of movies you might enjoy:
  • La Haine (Mathieu Kassovitz, 1995)

  • Ça commence aujourd'hui (Bertrand Tavernier, 1999)

  • La Belle Verte (Coline Serreau, 1996)




Thanks. I'll check those out when I get the chance. Don't worry about using subtitles. I'm definitely using them in French films since I'm new to the language. For German films I don't need them usually, but will still occasionally peak.    

lecavaleur wrote:
Spinchäeb Ape wrote:

Le Samouraï (1967) A crime drama by Jean-Pierre Melville


I love this one. It's very esthetically pleasing, very interesting. I love how the people
are dressed.


If you like that one, you'll probably also like Melville's last film, Un Flic (1972). It's about a cop trying to solve a bank robbery crime and stop a drug smuggling operation. It also stars the lovely Catherine Deneuve who was in Belle de Jour.

I also forgot to put Last Tango in Paris (1972) on my list. It's actually produced by an Italian company and directed by an Italian man, but it's set in France and most of the language is in French. Some of it is in English. At the time it was released, it was extremely controversial because of its high sexual content. So this is another one to avoid if that kind of thing offends you. It's about a widowed American man (Marlon Brando) who has a steamy affair with a French woman (Maria Schneider) in an empty apartment. They make it a point to never learn each other's names. The film includes the strangest Tango dance seen you'll ever see. I won't go into further detail because I don't want to give it away.

I've also found a link to the 100 Best French films of all time. Obviously, that's a subjective judgment, but it includes descriptions and stills to help you find a film you might like. Here's that link:
http://www.timeout.fr/paris/en/film/100-best-french-films


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