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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 33 of 37 19 April 2013 at 2:45am | IP Logged |
Monolingual doesn't refer to exposure but to one's actual level in the language. We keep speaking about monolingual Americans even though most of them took some Spanish (or French, Latin, German) in high school.
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6551 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 34 of 37 19 April 2013 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
cacue23 wrote:
Ideally, people should be exposed to the language before moving to the country, since it increases the efficiency ten-fold, and I don't think I need to tell you guys why. |
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I think you do. Please cite the ten-fold.
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| maydayayday Pentaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5220 days ago 564 posts - 839 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, SpanishB2, FrenchB2 Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), Russian, Swedish, Turkish, Polish, Persian, Vietnamese Studies: Urdu
| Message 35 of 37 20 April 2013 at 12:32am | IP Logged |
Don't fret. Even in a simple language like Spanish I often sit in relaxed social situations with about 5% of a clue what's going on .... two years after picking up a book... Gosh when we cross the border into France... it gets worse!
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| cacue23 Triglot Groupie Canada Joined 4300 days ago 89 posts - 122 votes Speaks: Shanghainese, Mandarin*, English Studies: Cantonese
| Message 36 of 37 04 May 2013 at 12:00pm | IP Logged |
leosmith wrote:
cacue23 wrote:
Ideally, people should be exposed to the language before moving to the country, since it increases the efficiency ten-fold, and I don't think I need to tell you guys why. |
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I think you do. Please cite the ten-fold. |
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I don't remember where I saw this but here's the thing: if you don't understand a word of a conversation, it tends to fade into the background. If you never got exposed to a language before you move to the country, how do you know that, say, a desk is a desk? You can't even pick out the syllables that combine to mean "a desk" from a string of seemingly meaningless syllables. Of course you could ask the locals to clarify and they would point at a desk and tell you what it sounds like in that language, but wouldn't it be nice to just know what a desk sounds like and focus on meanings of whole sentences?
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 37 of 37 05 May 2013 at 3:36pm | IP Logged |
caitwn wrote:
Taiwan is a great place to be and the best place to learn Chinese while
also earning money. There is, however, one thing that makes it a little more difficult
for beginners to make fast progress.
Depending on where you are in Taiwan, people use varying amounts of Taiwanese (or even
Hakka in places) in their conversation.
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Interesting. It had never occurred to me there was a Taiwanese language. Prompted by
your post, I have educated myself, at least to the extent of the relevant looking
entries in Wikipedia, which are quite interesting.
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