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Serpent
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 Message 33 of 37
19 April 2013 at 2:45am | IP Logged 
Monolingual doesn't refer to exposure but to one's actual level in the language. We keep speaking about monolingual Americans even though most of them took some Spanish (or French, Latin, German) in high school.
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leosmith
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 Message 34 of 37
19 April 2013 at 6:20pm | IP Logged 
cacue23 wrote:
Ideally, people should be exposed to the language before moving to the country, since it increases the efficiency ten-fold, and I don't think I need to tell you guys why.

I think you do. Please cite the ten-fold.
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maydayayday
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 Message 35 of 37
20 April 2013 at 12:32am | IP Logged 
Don't fret. Even in a simple language like Spanish I often sit in relaxed social situations with about 5% of a clue what's going on .... two years after picking up a book... Gosh when we cross the border into France... it gets worse!

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cacue23
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 Message 36 of 37
04 May 2013 at 12:00pm | IP Logged 
leosmith wrote:
cacue23 wrote:
Ideally, people should be exposed to the language before moving to the country, since it increases the efficiency ten-fold, and I don't think I need to tell you guys why.

I think you do. Please cite the ten-fold.


I don't remember where I saw this but here's the thing: if you don't understand a word of a conversation, it tends to fade into the background. If you never got exposed to a language before you move to the country, how do you know that, say, a desk is a desk? You can't even pick out the syllables that combine to mean "a desk" from a string of seemingly meaningless syllables. Of course you could ask the locals to clarify and they would point at a desk and tell you what it sounds like in that language, but wouldn't it be nice to just know what a desk sounds like and focus on meanings of whole sentences?
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montmorency
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 Message 37 of 37
05 May 2013 at 3:36pm | IP Logged 
caitwn wrote:
Taiwan is a great place to be and the best place to learn Chinese while
also earning money. There is, however, one thing that makes it a little more difficult
for beginners to make fast progress.

Depending on where you are in Taiwan, people use varying amounts of Taiwanese (or even
Hakka in places) in their conversation.



Interesting. It had never occurred to me there was a Taiwanese language. Prompted by
your post, I have educated myself, at least to the extent of the relevant looking
entries in Wikipedia, which are quite interesting.





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