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Serpent
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 Message 9 of 14
28 April 2013 at 4:10pm | IP Logged 
same here:) i see no reason to focus on the speaking before i can understand properly (unless I visit the country of that language).
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montmorency
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 Message 10 of 14
29 April 2013 at 2:09pm | IP Logged 
Back to explorers: one of note might be Captain James Cook. I don't know to what extent
he was a linguist, but he seems to have studied the people in whose lands he explored, so
I'm sure it would have come in somewhere.


Not an explorer per se, but the writer Robert Louis Setvenson was a great traveller, and
his Wikipedia entry notes the degree to which he interacted with the natives of Samoa,
for example. As a writer, he would presumably have had a natural love of language.
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schoenewaelder
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 Message 11 of 14
29 April 2013 at 2:18pm | IP Logged 
emk wrote:
4. Kids learn because they have no choice.


I think I might add, that not only do they have no choice, but that they really, really desperately want to communicate [edit] to an extent that is probably hard for an adult to emulate, outside of intimate relationships etc.

[and also] (Pre.teen) Kids are also (almost) entirely lacking in self consciousness.


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Edited by schoenewaelder on 29 April 2013 at 3:08pm

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shk00design
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 Message 12 of 14
02 May 2013 at 8:21am | IP Logged 
Some people are particularly keen on learning languages because they found benefits being multilingual. Came
across a documentary from PBS in America of an African prince from Fouta Djallon in modern-day Guinea in W.
Africa who was traded away in battle as a slave. Being educated in several languages including Arabic &
Portuguese he gained some respect from his slave owners in America. African slaves often picked up languages of
their European captors.

In the Chinese community people often stereotype Europeans (White people) who speak their language well as
being missionaries (people affiliated with a Christian group). In the old days the Chinese often see Europeans as
people who felt superior to other races that the only ones willing to learn their language were missionaries. The
only way to bring the concept of Jesus and 1 God to the locals was by translating the Bible into Chinese. In moden
times people learn languages for other reasons. There are more resources available if you put in the time & effort.
The ex-Prime Minister of Australia Kevin Rudd was 1 of the few who can give a speech in China without a
translator.

1 traveller from Europe to China was Marco Polo. I'm not sure which language he learned to speak. Supposedly he
learned some variation of Turkish passing through Turkey. Being in the Chinese court with the Mongols in charge
he would have to learn Mongolian.
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 Message 13 of 14
02 May 2013 at 9:32am | IP Logged 
If he was there, that is ... this has been questioned.
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hrhenry
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 Message 14 of 14
02 May 2013 at 10:36am | IP Logged 
shk00design wrote:

In the Chinese community people often stereotype Europeans (White people) who speak
their language well as
being missionaries (people affiliated with a Christian group). In the old days the
Chinese often see Europeans as
people who felt superior to other races that the only ones willing to learn their
language were missionaries. The
only way to bring the concept of Jesus and 1 God to the locals was by translating the
Bible into Chinese.

I don't know about the superiority bit, but a lot of missionaries that were sent off to
far away lands were oftentimes already multilingual to a degree. Many already had
experience translating scriptures to other languages. They already had the benefit of
knowing how to succeed (and fail, I suppose) at learning languages.

R.
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