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 Message 161 of 164
26 March 2013 at 7:24pm | IP Logged 
I tend to take claims with a grain of salt. But it's not my job to play inspector Gadget.
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 Message 162 of 164
26 March 2013 at 8:48pm | IP Logged 
sillygoose1 wrote:
tastyonions wrote:
It's a bit awkward when someone is willing to bestow a status on you that you definitely wouldn't claim for yourself.


South Americans and Italians tend to be guilty of this. With me, anyway.


Maybe, when they want pick some girl
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 Message 163 of 164
04 April 2013 at 11:40pm | IP Logged 
I don't know how widespread it is, but I've seen a couple of cases of this happening where it goes beyond personal interactions and into the professional language teaching world, which is worrying.

Just as a quick example: I don't want to give too many details, but I have a friend who is from a former Soviet satellite country. She's young-ish, late 20s. She has a masters degree in English, and after searching for some time, found a job a few months ago in her home city, at a language school, teaching English.

The problem is: her English is really not that good. In fact, I'd go so far as to saying it's actually quite poor for someone who teaches English. Her conversational skills are the worst, I'd say that it would be quite generous to say she speaks at about A2. She can carry on basic conversation but nothing much more than that. I suppose in terms of writing, identifying basic grammar errors on paper, etc, she uses English at a higher level, but in terms of actually expressing herself in conversation she really is still almost a beginner. In fact she's never visited an English speaking country and her learning material was all 1980s sources. She says things like "Good afternoon, pal," followed by "what's kicking?" in a very deliberate and awkward way.

And yet, she gets paid to teach English to other people! She's a very good person, warm, kind, intelligent. But I really feel bad that some students are learning English from her.
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 Message 164 of 164
05 April 2013 at 2:00am | IP Logged 
And she must've had some of the best classes available... that's why I'm sceptic of them.


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