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| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4794 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes  Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 1 of 26 24 August 2011 at 6:57pm | IP Logged |
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Have you ever learned a language with very little or absolutely no effort (Let's exclude the sitatuion when you've learned languages while being abroad)?
I'm asking because I've hit upon the idea to learn Croatian as I simply adore this language. The problem is that I haven't really got time to learn another language full-time, so... I just want to translate news and lyrics (especially the second one - I'm in love with Croatian music). So, tell me, If you've learned language at some level by doing nothing or almost nothing. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5316 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 3 of 26 25 August 2011 at 4:59pm | IP Logged |
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By doing nothing? Apart from relaxing, sleeping or waiting, what can you possibly do without doing anything?
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| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5534 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 4 of 26 25 August 2011 at 5:57pm | IP Logged |
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I learnt to read Esperanto books with nearly no effort in some weeks, because I already knew all its source languages of its vocabulary and because the grammar is a whiff.
But Croatian? No way. But wait. Maybe if you learn Serbian very hard, Croatian will follow nearly effortless ;-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5316 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 5 of 26 25 August 2011 at 6:00pm | IP Logged |
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If you intend to learn the language to a functional level, then maintaining the necessary level of motivation alone is bound to require a sizable effort.
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| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4794 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 6 of 26 25 August 2011 at 9:44pm | IP Logged |
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@Cabaire - remember, Polish is also Slavic language. Besides, I'm learning Bulgarian and Macedonian. So, in fact, vastly rings a bell. The question is in which church :P I already know something from songs and ONLY from them.
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| RMM Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5162 days ago 91 posts - 215 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Swedish, Japanese | Message 7 of 26 26 August 2011 at 9:40am | IP Logged |
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Well, I learned a substantial amount of Italian from just listening to a lot of operas and often following along with the libretti. I hadn't even really planned on trying to learn Italian--I was just trying to get familiar with the operas. However, each opera is usually 2 to 4 hours long, and each tells a unified story. Each regular song is usually 2 to 4 minutes long and is not part of a larger work. If you really want your method to work, you had better have a *very large* number of different songs in Croatian. Beyond this, you will either need to deliberately try to work out the grammar yourself from the lyrics or simply give in and get a grammar book (so yes, there will be some work either way). Also, singing and speaking aren't entirely the same thing, so you will need to hear the language spoken too, even after you've learnt a lot of the language (movies and TV should be fairly pain-free methods for this). Also, provided you actually want to speak the language, rather than just understand it, you really will have to practice speaking it (although singing along with the lyrics should help a little in this regard, but it won't be enough on its own). This won't be a quick method, but it should mostly work if you do it for a sizable amount of time--and it should be fairly fun, though really not "absolutely without effort" in my opinion. Edited by RMM on 26 August 2011 at 9:43am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| unmaad Tetraglot Newbie India Joined 6111 days ago 38 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, GermanC2, Hindi Studies: Japanese | Message 8 of 26 26 August 2011 at 10:16am | IP Logged |
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Here is a tip: Do nothing. Just imagine that you have learned Croatian. After that keep doing nothing. That way it cannot be proved beyond doubt that you do not know Croatian.
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