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| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6020 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 9 of 12 27 September 2011 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
Oh, sorry! I thought you were just starting. Then good luck with N2!
If you use Iversen's wordlist method then I would group the compounds for as many kanji as you can. Your JLPT list does this anyway but also include the words where the kanji comes at the end. This will help you memorize the readings faster, I think. A kanji dictionary can help. Kanji: 物 mono, motsu, butsu 瀬戸物 せともの 農産物 のうさんぶつ 物置 ものおき 物差し ものさし 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Andrew Coach Diglot Newbie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4740 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: English, Hungarian | Message 10 of 12 30 September 2011 at 8:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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To remember vocabulary these are the important things I have found need to be done:
1. contextualise the word eg "I used the CAMERA to take pictures of the things that I like" 2. Make it personal: "I love taking pictures of my friend with my CAMERA" 3. DO NOT TRANSLATE or use another language - that way you use the new language 4. Use full sentences. 5. Make the sentences FULL of meaning That way you can dispense with repetition...a very poor way to learn vocabulary... ...dispense with translation ...dispense with boredom 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6020 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 11 of 12 01 October 2011 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
This assumes that all words are easy or you already have a reference for the new word. What if you have no reference? Japanese is not the easiest language to learn without a net, so-to-speak. A word like あき (otakuclub's N2 list) is not the hardest word to learn, but it basically has two meanings: 空き(P); 明き 【あき】 ; (n) (1) space; room; emptiness; gap; (2) opening; vacancy; empty seat; (3) free time; time to spare; (4) disuse; unused thing-----)(Jim Breen) If otakuclub (or anyone) tries to make sentences from scratch, I'd think it would be necessary to use a translation like this one. I personally think Japanese is not a language to learn using the wordlist method alone, so I think the sentence-making idea is a good one! :) Edited by Sunja on 01 October 2011 at 1:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Andrew Coach Diglot Newbie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4740 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: English, Hungarian | Message 12 of 12 02 October 2011 at 12:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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The whole point of not translating is not about easiness. It's point is to make the learner use all their faculties to
sort out the meaning. The reality is that language is a way of expressing a reality ( as seen by a culture). That is one reason why translating is very poor method. It tries to see everything from one standpoint. Great language learning requires you to let go of how you see the world and put yourself in the shoes of how someone else sees the world. We already do this to some extent when we try to understand somebody we are having issues with. In language learning this requirement is taken to a new level. Sometimes this will take time...you may feel like you are getting closer and closer, but not yet have it. But one day if you are attentive enough, read enough, listen enough you will sort it out. Checking out a Japanese to Japanese dictionary for eg may help in the examples you are talking about, but not always. You may need to check many J to J dictionaries, and even then....enjoy! :-) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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