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| superstacker Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5740 days ago 25 posts - 28 votes Studies: French, Russian, Spanish | Message 1 of 8 27 October 2011 at 11:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi guys,
In an effort to boost my studies a bit, and keep them interesting I have purchased the following book: Russian Stories (Dual-Language Books) [Paperback] Gleb Struve (Editor) It contains 12 short stories, by a variety of Russian writers, the English is perfectly lined up with the Russian so finding out meaning is easy. My question is how to go about learning vocab from this book? Is it a case of writing down every word I don't understand (which will be a lot at first) and then going over the page over and over until I understand all the words? Then move on to next page? Or am I missing on a crucial method? All help appreciated. Edited by superstacker on 28 October 2011 at 12:05am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5353 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 2 of 8 28 October 2011 at 12:35am | IP Logged | ||
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This site gives some advice which you might find useful as well as other bilingual texts you can use for learning Russian: http://english.franklang.ru/index.php?option=com_content&vie w=article&id=1:ilya-franks-reading-method&catid=3:2011-04-22 -11-56-11&Itemid=2
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| Wompi Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4891 days ago 56 posts - 64 votes Speaks: German*, Spanish, English Studies: Czech | Message 3 of 8 28 October 2011 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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I also have a bilingual book in czech and couldn´t read it fluent at first in the target language so I started to read first the sentence in my language and then the sentence in the target language and associated the words. After I finished the book I read it in the target language anew (because I only have this book) and marked all those remaining words with a marker I still didn´t know. I find if I mark those still missing words your brain can learn and remember these words easier. Edited by Wompi on 28 October 2011 at 10:26am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| superstacker Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5740 days ago 25 posts - 28 votes Studies: French, Russian, Spanish | Message 4 of 8 28 October 2011 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | ||
I am possibly none the wiser from reading this, the book doesn't have any prompts or inserted translations, just English on one side and Russian on the other. I would have thought it best to go through paragraph by paragraph, but i'm really not sure of the best way to do this... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JiriT Triglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4732 days ago 60 posts - 95 votes Speaks: Czech*, English, German | Message 5 of 8 29 October 2011 at 2:12am | IP Logged | ||
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I believe, reading a book with the translation can be very helpful. But there may be
two problems. The first, is the language of the book current? Or a hundred years old or is it a special language, not the common form of the language? The second possible problem, is is a literary translation or a translation very close to original? Literary translation can translate the meaning (as the translator understood) but not the word and grammar structure. The main point should be, when I use a bilingual book, I do not a dictionary, instead of it I use the translation into my mother tongue. If you know some basic grammar and some vocabulary, you should try to understand the meaning first just from the text. Then you can read the translation a try to guess the meaning of the unknown words. Finally, you can compare the meaning you guess from the text and its translation with the dictionary. Even here you have to decide the correct meaning, since only few words have just one meaning. So the guesswork is not a waste of time, you would do it anytime, even without the translation. The translation helps you. Here you can compare, if the translation and what you have found in the dictionary is often similiar or the same. In such a case you could do without a dictionary or to use it not very often. It is not necessary to look up each word. But at the beginning it is better. Some words you will not find anyway or their meaning in the text will not be in the dictionary. If you understand the sentence as a whole, it should not stress you. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4844 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 6 of 8 01 November 2011 at 10:21pm | IP Logged | ||
That article was interesting. He basically described the L-R method, without the listening component. I think audio would definitely improve comprehension, as well as ensuring better pronunciation and developing your ear. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| iscem42 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5185 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Mandarin, Hindi | Message 7 of 8 03 November 2011 at 12:32am | IP Logged | ||
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Prof. Arguelles also has some pretty solid advice in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=zbBdz80Vpr8&feature=channel_video_title I think one of his suggestions for saving time is to read through the translation first so that you'll have a good idea of the context before you start reading in the target language. After that, he suggests waiting for a while (perhaps a few hours, or perhaps until the next day) before reading the translation. Doing that, you may be able to train your memory a bit better than if you just read them at the same time. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6638 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 8 of 8 03 November 2011 at 1:50am | IP Logged | ||
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I have written a whole lot about this in my Guide to Learning Languages, part 2
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