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Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4638 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian
| Message 9 of 24 18 October 2012 at 1:25pm | IP Logged |
I study Russian and I am also a married man with children and a full-time job. I am happy if I manage to get 30 minutes of "real" study time every day, often even that is difficult. However, as others have said, use any extra time or "dead time" on the language. I listen to Russian dialogue (mostly Assimil) while walking to work or driving somewhere. If I have a break at work, I pull out my Colloquial Russian book and go over a few grammer points. I also try to listen to radio and watch TV in Russian, but I am not yet at the level where I get very much out of that, apart from getting accustomed to listening to "the real thing".
As for methods, personally I combine Assimil, Colloquial and Linguaphone. They all have their good and less good points, but I find they complement each other nicely, and besides it expands my vocabulary more than working with one single method would do.
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5668 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 10 of 24 18 October 2012 at 2:41pm | IP Logged |
It depends how much language experience you have. If you can already speak a couple of languages, then you can probably go straight with Assimil. This is perfect for 30 minutes a day.
If you never really mastered a second language, then you may need more hand-holding. In that case, I would suggest Michel Thomas Russian.
In the past, I used all three of the MT Russian courses, and certainly enjoyed them and found them beneficial in getting me over the bump of speaking Russian and then ready for more advanced materials.
Edited by Splog on 18 October 2012 at 2:42pm
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 11 of 24 18 October 2012 at 3:11pm | IP Logged |
I rarely study more than 30 minutes a day, at least not regularly. Then, on the weekend, I may do more or I may meet a language partner. Don't let the time you have available be a obstacle -- just make sure you are consistent and diligent and you can do it. You can also use the rest of the time to think about what you learned, which you can do anywhere, almost anytime, and use self-talk to support your efforts.
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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4714 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 12 of 24 18 October 2012 at 4:51pm | IP Logged |
When I see someone studying Russian I usually recommend the book "The New Penguin Russian Course" which is, in my opinion, the best Russian book I've found so far.
However, its lessons are usually long. I'm like to copy things to my notebook in order to learn it better, so a full copied lesson takes me about 5 hours and that's a lot in your case. If you don't copy, you can do it much quicker anyway.
It you have little time, I'd recommend the new Assimil Russian With Ease. I've been using it for some time to get new vocabulary and, despite some useless vocabulary, I like it very much! Lessons are short, you get a looooot of native audio input, lessons are fun. It's really worth it, and probably a better choice in your case. Our colleague @tarvos from this very forum completed it some months ago, and his Russian is now very good!
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| hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6232 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 13 of 24 18 October 2012 at 5:31pm | IP Logged |
fabriciocarraro wrote:
When I see someone studying Russian I usually recommend the book "The New Penguin Russian Course" which is, in my opinion, the best Russian book I've found so far.
However, its lessons are usually long. I'm like to copy things to my notebook in order to learn it better, so a full copied lesson takes me about 5 hours and that's a lot in your case. If you don't copy, you can do it much quicker anyway. |
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The book is good, but there is no audio offered for the course. I recommend it as a first book only if your focus is reading and writing Russian or you already can correctly speak Russian.
Edited by hobbitofny on 18 October 2012 at 7:41pm
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5055 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 14 of 24 18 October 2012 at 6:23pm | IP Logged |
fabriciocarraro wrote:
When I see someone studying Russian I usually recommend the book
"The New Penguin Russian Course" which is, in my opinion, the best Russian book I've
found so far.
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Why?
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5055 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 15 of 24 18 October 2012 at 6:24pm | IP Logged |
hobbitofny wrote:
The book is good, but there is no audio offered for the course. I recommend it as a first
book only if your focus is reading and writing Russian or you already can correctly speak
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I've promised to solve this problem... The author thinks that Russian pronu7nciation is
not important.
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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4714 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 16 of 24 18 October 2012 at 6:53pm | IP Logged |
hobbitofny wrote:
The book is good, but there is no audio offered for the course. I recommend it as a first book only if your focus is reading and writing Russian or you already can correctly speak Russian. |
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Indeed, that's a big minus. That's why I wouldn't reccomend using it as the only source.
@Марк I think I've already told you that. I came across lots of methods since I started learning Russian about 2,5 years ago, and I find that its grammar explanations are by far the most simple and didatic among all of them, especially for the cases. Each lesson explains certain parts of the grammar, gives a reasonable amount of examples and exceptions, "commonly used sentences and expressions" and original Russian texts (the extra texts) for you to get new vocabulary and have a constant contact with Russian longer texts. The exercises are not that great, that's another minus, but since I like to copy the whole lesson to my notebook adding my own notes, I already get all the practice I needed out of that.
I can agree with you about the non-focus on pronunciation, but, like I told @hobbitofny, that's why I wouldn't recommend it as the only study source.
Edited by fabriciocarraro on 18 October 2012 at 7:08pm
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