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| hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6232 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Russian | Message 17 of 24 18 October 2012 at 7:23pm | IP Logged |
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By the way, I have entered the all words used in the Linguaphone Complete Russian into the Byki software flashcard program. My wife is Russian and is adding the audio for each card and correcting any of my typos in the Russian. We have through lesson 6 completed with audio. I will post them on the Byki site in the next few weeks. There is a free version of Byki on line. The Byki deluxe (paid) has some activities for learning the words plus the flash cards. There is version of Byki for phones.
I am learning the words first in Byki and then doing the lessons follow Linguaphone's recommended way. I also use Byki to refresh stale words. It can be done in 20 mins a day. It will mean you move a little slower, with longer time spent on each lesson. The count is about 1600 words and phrases in Russian. It is not 2000 words. However, Linguaphone will give a good base for speaking, writing, reading and hearing Russian. The course is from 1971 and is still the current version sold. So a few words are out of date. This very solid course was made by Moscow State University Senior lecturer I.G. Miloslavsky with audio done by Radio Moscow (now Voice of Russia). There are many used copies and show up on ebay from time to time at a good price. Edited by hobbitofny on 18 October 2012 at 7:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| morphine Newbie United States Joined 4425 days ago 9 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 18 of 24 18 October 2012 at 9:49pm | IP Logged |
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Thank you, everyone, for your replies. As I mentioned, I don't have a lot of time to devote to language learning, and therefore I realize it will be a long hike. I will try to clarify and answer a few questions that some of you asked...as I can remember them without scrolling back...:)
This is my first foreign language, although I did study Spanish for 4 years in high school and college. But I know so little Spanish, that I cannot use it at all. I know the Cyrillic alphabet and feel pretty comfortable with pronunciation. I've listened to quite a bit of Russian (passively), and I listen to some Russian songs. I have memorized a few songs, including the old Russian national anthem, Cheburashka's Birthday Song, DDT's "Osen", and a couple others. I've been told by multiple native russians that my pronunciation is very good. I owe that to Pimsleur, I think. I think it is a very good course, but it is limited and I wish they had 30 levels instead of just 3! :) I will probably begin the Pimsleur courses again, realizing that I can go pretty quickly through the first several lessons. Finally, what is the reason for the disdain of Rosetta Stone? I have seen very good reviews for it. I realize it is expensive, but I do have free access to it. I have done a few of the first lessons, and I have not yet formed my own opinion. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| morphine Newbie United States Joined 4425 days ago 9 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 19 of 24 18 October 2012 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
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I am definitely only Level A1, according to the CEFRL scale. I was perhaps once an A2 (or very close to it), about 7-8 years ago when I had just finished all of Pimsleur. But I have forgotten most of what I had learned.
I do have a lot of "passive" time, such as commuting, lunch breaks, etc. But I don't really know how to use them yet, since my level is so low. Thanks again, everyone, for your advise. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5261 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 20 of 24 18 October 2012 at 9:59pm | IP Logged |
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Check out Benny Lewis' Review of Rosetta Stone.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 21 of 24 19 October 2012 at 12:46pm | IP Logged |
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Yeah, this. Frankly, you just really don't have the time for playing the RS game. If you like the process, try spaced repetition, for example memrise. While we're at it see other articles in the category Techniques: http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Techniques
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| hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6232 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian | Message 22 of 24 19 October 2012 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
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Byki is not listed in the article, but it DOES use spaced repetition.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 23 of 24 19 October 2012 at 9:27pm | IP Logged |
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It's just a starting point. There are many SRS programs nowadays.
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| jamesleecoleman Newbie United States Joined 4486 days ago 38 posts - 52 votes Studies: Russian, Persian | Message 24 of 24 21 October 2012 at 4:19am | IP Logged |
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Online book shop for Russian books:
http://www.ilearnrussian.com These are my recommended books for learning Russian. Speak Correctly: http://ilearnrussian.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_de tails&flypage=flypage_images-ht.tpl&product_id=297&category_ id=16&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1 Russian through exercises: http://ilearnrussian.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_de tails&flypage=flypage_images-ht.tpl&product_id=145&category_ id=22&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 I used Russian through exercises when I was taking Russian courses in Russia. It's a very good book for grammar but majority of it is in Russian. If you can put two and two together, then figuring out the grammar in this book isn't that difficult. I had speak correctly for over a year. I didn't know how to use it and I didn't use it well. This book goes over grammar but it doesn't really explain the different cases that well. This book does reinforce the case system and other grammar from Russian through exercises book. Also this book comes with a cd and each lesson has a list of vocabulary words. The cd goes over the vocab and most of the dialogs in the book in each lesson. These books are at the A2 (basic) level for the TKRI. One more book that I would suggest is Schaums' onlines Russian Grammar, Second Edition. This book goes into more detail about Russian grammar. Russian Grammar: http://www.amazon.com/Schaums-Outline-Russian-Grammar-Editio n/dp/007161169X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350785905&sr=8-1&key words=russian+grammar+schaums 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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