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| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6448 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes  Studies: German | Message 9 of 22 30 November 2012 at 8:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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Just encourage people to use dialang. It would be helpful for a more realistic and objective assessment and future study plans. Forget about people judging their own skills realistically based on any checklists and guidelines.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 22 30 November 2012 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Agreed about Dialang
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| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4453 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 11 of 22 30 November 2012 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Except that dialang has tests for only 14 European languages.
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| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6448 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 12 of 22 30 November 2012 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's only about 90% of language learners worldwide. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6904 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 13 of 22 30 November 2012 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The problem with Dialang is, apart from the limited number of languages , that it is easy
to get a good result if you know a cognate language (especially from the reading comprehension part, but also in other activities, typically oriented toward testing active skills. If I remember correctly, I got A2/B1 for Portuguese despite the fact I hadn't even learned it! Obviously, it is more of a general problem with assessing skills in cognate languages, but it was pretty visible in the case of Dialang. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6448 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 14 of 22 30 November 2012 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It is also much easier to learn a language if you know a related language so your results are not necessarily way off mark. Speakers of related languages often get bumped up to more advanced classes. The speakers of a related language often get too cocky and assess their skills at more advanced levels than B1 after short study - something I see here often so Dialang might actually prove more useful rather than problematic as you suggest.
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| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6904 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 15 of 22 30 November 2012 at 9:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@Reineke
Generally, I agree with you (it is easier to learn a language, people tend to overestimate their skills after a short study etc.). Still, I haven't experienced such a strong effect of this kind in other assessment tests (and Portuguese wasn't the only 'unknown' language I tested). I don't remember the details but I achieved pretty good results not only in the reading comprehension part (which could have been expected) but also in the other components. I had no exposure to Portuguese whatsoever and my Spanish wasn't really that good. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4453 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 16 of 22 30 November 2012 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah, but I care about what's useful to me and right now dialang is not. I'm not saying that the 90% of people studying those languages shouldn't use it, I just want something I can use. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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