|
 |
Magnap learns Italian | ||
Tags: Italian | ||
Share with:
| ||
 Language Learning Forum : Language Learning Log |  | |
| Magnap Triglot Newbie Denmark magnap.dkRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4297 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Danish*, English, German Studies: Italian | Message 1 of 9 18 February 2013 at 9:23am | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
Hello everyone, I'm (or am at least known online as) Magnap.
If you hadn't guessed it from the post title, I'm currently in the beginning of learning Italian. Though I have only been doing it a couple of days, it is progressing well, and I know lots of useful phrases, and (due to going a bit overboard with conjugations) lots of more ways to say "Shut up!" and "You're mad!". I do though, have a question that I hope can be answered by someone knowing more Italian than me. Some of the phrases I currently know are "Ho freddo!" (I'm cold), "Ho fame!" (I'm hungry) and so on. But, after learning the personal pronouns, I began wondering. Wouldn't it be "Io ho fame!" and so on? Or do you omit the pronoun? And if you do, why and when? That was a few more questions than I planned for, but 'till next time, A prego! EDIT: Still haven't gotten used to writing I with capital Edited by Magnap on 18 February 2013 at 9:32am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 2 of 9 18 February 2013 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
Ciao, Magnap! Benvenuto al forum.
Indeed, personal pronouns are mostly left out, because the verbal ending clearly indicates the person. However, you do use the pronouns if you want to emphasize who is speaking: "Sono Marco." (I am Marco.) "Io sono Marco." (I am Marco (and not you or he).)
I think you meant "A presto". By the way, in bocca al lupo and good luck with your studies! Edited by Josquin on 18 February 2013 at 3:40pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Magnap Triglot Newbie Denmark magnap.dkRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4297 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Danish*, English, German Studies: Italian | Message 3 of 9 19 February 2013 at 10:28am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Ciao, Josquin, grazie!
Yes, you are right, I certainly did.
Grazie mille. I did, though, have to run "in bocca al lupo" through Google Translate, since I only know it as "buona fortuna". It will be added to my Anki deck as soon as I figure out the difference between "in bocca al lupo" and "buona fortuna". My studies have now progressed to the point where I can utter such "complexities" as "ho freddo, ma ho non fretta" (I'm cold, but I'm not in a hurry). This, I hope, is OK and correct without the pronouns. Until next time, A presto! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5205 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 4 of 9 19 February 2013 at 10:39am | IP Logged | ||||||||
One of my books, an edition of Perfectionnement Italien from a couple of decades ago, says that people traditionally avoid saying "buona fortuna!" the day before an exam etc. out of superstition, as if it will jinx the outcome, while "in bocca al lupo!" is OK. That's the main difference that I'm aware of, but maybe a native or advanced speaker can go into more detail. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Magnap Triglot Newbie Denmark magnap.dkRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4297 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Danish*, English, German Studies: Italian | Message 5 of 9 25 February 2013 at 10:00am | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
I've started blogging about my language-learning at magnap.dk
Also i'm going to start doing continuity goals. Currently: ~~~ 0 days: Anki every day ~~~ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Magnap Triglot Newbie Denmark magnap.dkRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4297 days ago 4 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Danish*, English, German Studies: Italian | Message 6 of 9 01 March 2013 at 10:59am | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
My motivation is failing. All of my not-new Anki cards are now due, and I simply can't
convince myself to work through them. I feel like I've failed both myself, and the Italian language. Please, Forum, i beg your help. ~~~ 0 days: Anki every day ~~~ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4663 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 7 of 9 01 March 2013 at 2:09pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
How long does your daily Anki review take?
Perhaps you can break it up into smaller chunks? Say, a 10-15m spell in the morning before you start your day, and another 10-15m spell in the evening before supper? You don't need to force yourself to work through the whole deck every time. If I have hundreds of reviews due I find it quite demotivating to know that I'll be sitting there for 30m or 1h or 2h just to get through. I find it much better to set bounded goals ("I'll do two 15m sessions each day") rather than something that might take much longer than I expected ("I'll complete all my reviews every day"). I'm currently working through a Japanese grammar book and each chapter has a bunch of vocabulary: some of it I already know and the rest I add to Anki. Since this vocab will be useful immediately, I prioritise it so that I work through it first and I try to make sure that I've been through it at least once before I tackle that chapter. This way I keep the reviews under control *and* I can see that the reviews have a purpose. I also avoid adding more material to my review decks if I feel I'm too far behind. (This is easy to do in Anki 2: I just add it to a deck I'm not reviewing and then I move it into an active deck when I catch up). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mikonai Diglot Senior Member United States weirdnamewriting.bloRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4927 days ago 178 posts - 281 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Swahili, German | Message 8 of 9 01 March 2013 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
|
Ciao Magnap! Sorry I've missed your log previously.
Don't get discouraged because of Anki. It's a very useful program, but when everything comes due (like all of my decks are right now -- I've actually fallen behind because of school) it can be hard to work through it. Like dampingwire said, don't worry about getting through all of it at once. If you feel a compulsion to catch up entirely in a day, you may find it more beneficial to at least break it up into several smaller sessions, broken up by other activities, even if they're not Italian-related at all. In fact, that might be best. In the future, you may want to set your "new cards" level a little lower, at least for now. Now that I'm further along in my studies I find I can learn more vocabulary words in a day, but when I was still figuring out pronunciation and everything looked odd to me it was much slower going. The default in Anki is usually 20 new cards every day, but I would suggest scaling that back, until your reviews get under control, and then you can slowly bring it back up, if you like. In case you're still wondering about "in bocca al lupo": It's an old expression of good luck, literally translated it means "in the mouth of the wolf." Think of it as the equivalent of "break a leg!" to performers, since we sometimes (or at least once did) think of it as unlucky to say "good luck" before a performance. The tricky bit about "in bocca al lupo" is that there's a specific response to it: "Crepi", which means "may he die" (although I've never seen it used in modern Italian aside from this context). So in bocca al lupo with your studies! Try not to get too discouraged. 1 person has voted this message useful |
|  | 
Printable version
|
| Copyright 2024 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization. |
