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Do you have > 5-second auditory memory? | ||
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 14 21 March 2013 at 7:26pm | IP Logged |
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I think my auditory memory is good as long as I actually care. I also have A LOT of random useless memories stored in my head,, including many from 5+ years ago.
That is, if I ACTIVELY don't care I'll forget. If it simply doesn't matter, I may or may not remember. Edited by Serpent on 21 March 2013 at 7:27pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| mikonai Diglot Senior Member United States weirdnamewriting.bloRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4930 days ago 178 posts - 281 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Swahili, German | Message 10 of 14 21 March 2013 at 7:30pm | IP Logged |
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This is how my Psycholinguistics class explained it (not that I've studied it much in-
depth independently) Psycholinguists tend to think of memory split up into three parts: Long-term Memory, Working/Short-term Memory, and Sensory Memory. Sensory Memory is the shortest-lived of all of them, and it actually holds possibly a few dozen "items" (the exact definition is a little fuzzy, and depends on how the individual perceives the input), but they vanish without a trace after anywhere between half a second to maybe about three seconds. Basically, if you don't pay attention to what you perceive, it doesn't get transferred to short-term memory at all. Working Memory (or what you might call short-term memory) holds fewer items, but can hold them a little longer, and contains mechanisms to keep them in memory (for example, a "phonological loop", which is much like repeating a word, phrase, or telephone number to yourself so you don't forget). The information in working memory still only lasts a few seconds (say, about 20) unless you remind yourself of it, though. To keep it longer than that you have to rehearse it or manage to encode it into long-term memory, usually by giving it more meaning than simply some chunk of information. For myself, I feel like I can definitely remember something more precisely if there was less for me to pay attention to in the meantime: as soon as my brain's resources get directed somewhere else, though, a phone number or name is going to fade quickly. I confess I don't often put a lot of effort into remembering people's names, which I really should. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Ojorolla Diglot Groupie France Joined 4966 days ago 90 posts - 130 votes Speaks: French*, English | Message 11 of 14 22 March 2013 at 6:05am | IP Logged |
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I think you can remember people's names better if you previously know lots of similar names. For instance, I can remember Korean or English names better than say Russian or Italian names.
And for some reason, I remember English names better if I see them in an Enlish article, rather than a Korean one. I tend to remember names visually if I see them written in Roman alphabet, and auditorily if I see them written in Korean alphabet. I think the latter doesn't work well with English names in my case. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5561 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 12 of 14 22 March 2013 at 12:10pm | IP Logged |
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My short term memory is terrible. I used to look up words in dictionaries, and the second I put it down, I would have actually forgotten it, and have to look it up again. Then I would forget what gender and have to look it up, then again to check the plural, or what preposition etc. This is literally all in the space of 10 - 20 seconds.
Another example is, I used to do dictation exercises where you had to put the pronouns in the correct order (le, lui, y, en etc), and I would listen and simply be completely unable to repeat what order they were in. This was doing exercises intended for beginners, despite the fact that I had been learning french for years (or decades, to be more precise) I have got a lot better now, I believe through making a conscious effort to repeat in my head sentences I have just heard, and also through doing dictations and transcriptions. Seeing the words written down is definitely a help, but I think it basically comes down to auditory memory. I lokk forward to hearing more of what you discover. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4652 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 13 of 14 22 March 2013 at 12:21pm | IP Logged |
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My short-term memory is pretty good, I can recall lots of details I heard or read.
However, it depends on what it is about. If it's about languages, chances are I'll remember it. If it's some s*** I don't care about, then you can guess what happens :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 14 of 14 22 March 2013 at 1:42pm | IP Logged |
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I just read all the comments.
What was the question again? Seriously, do you have a more specific example or exercise one could perform in order to test this? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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