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| Tigresuisse Triglot Senior Member SwitzerlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6007 days ago 182 posts - 180 votes  Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian | Message 33 of 53 28 August 2008 at 1:24am | IP Logged |
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Thank you Jimmymac for having shared your plan with us.
I totally agree with Keith ... thank you Kathe for the wise answer. Marta 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Jimmymac Senior Member United Kingdom strange-lands.com/le Joined 6155 days ago 276 posts - 362 votes Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, French | Message 34 of 53 27 July 2009 at 11:42am | IP Logged |
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I wrote this post a while ago and a couple of people disagreed about the effectiveness of using negative motivators to keep you on track to your goals. I was reminded of this today when I came accross a BBC article talking about the effectiveness of betting on your own wieght loss, and declaring publicly how much you wish to lose.
Weight loss 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| warm dream Newbie Saudi Arabia Joined 5560 days ago 7 posts - 3 votes | Message 35 of 53 07 September 2009 at 4:12pm | IP Logged |
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thanks
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| Toufik18 Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Algeria Joined 5746 days ago 188 posts - 202 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, Arabic (classical)*, French, English | Message 36 of 53 10 September 2009 at 2:26am | IP Logged |
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Hi :)
I find your post increadibly helpful, for the fact that I like many others here lack decipline and motivation since it's so seldom to find any native speakers of the target language in my country, so I try to motivate my self as much as possible through the net, and posts like yours. I have a tiny little question, where I can find those FSI time-frames for languages that you mentioned? Thank you 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Jimmymac Senior Member United Kingdom strange-lands.com/le Joined 6155 days ago 276 posts - 362 votes Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, French | Message 37 of 53 10 September 2009 at 9:36am | IP Logged |
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Hi,
I'm glad you found it useful. Here is a link the FSI scalesFSI 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| vb Octoglot Senior Member Afghanistan Joined 6424 days ago 112 posts - 135 votes Speaks: English, Romanian, French, Polish, Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian, Swedish | Message 38 of 53 15 September 2009 at 8:22pm | IP Logged |
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Here are my motivators:
- Others can do X whereas I can't. Why? For no reason other than they have worked at it. - I too must work at it, for until I can also do X, I am unworthy and must feel shame. - The inability to do X is of prime importance. It is first on the agenda, nothing can usurp it. - And so, _all_ available time must be spent on learning - If I am not learning or learning unproductively, then I am to feel shame. - But there is to be no punishment, for not being able to do X is punishment enough. - The reward for productive learning is doing X. Immediately, it is a reward in itself. No need for pats on the back. - There are to be no breaks, but to avoid mental or psychological collapse or to perform activities that bring me closer to X. - There is no need for me to compare myself with others, other than to chart my progress. - In any case, I know that if I follow my instructions I will outstretch my competitors by great distances. I will be able to do X sooner, better. I know that this works for me - it made me UK champ in something. This is also why I stopped writing my log - as it takes away from practice time. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Jimmymac Senior Member United Kingdom strange-lands.com/le Joined 6155 days ago 276 posts - 362 votes Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, French | Message 39 of 53 15 September 2009 at 9:11pm | IP Logged |
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VB I find this quite interesting and I'm certainly curious about the UK champ thing. I guess I differ in that I wouldn't allow myself to feel shame. I don't personally see shame as a productive mind set. Of course I'm in no way criticising your approach, each to his own after all, but when I tell others about my goals it isn't so that the shame I feel when I'm not achieving those goals motivates me; it is to create a verbally binding contract that includes other peoples expectations. Although I'm an individual I can't escape being a social creature and as such people can have a powerful influence on my behaviour. So I choose to use that influence productively.
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| gbarv Groupie Cocos (Keeling) Islands Joined 5639 days ago 49 posts - 60 votes | Message 40 of 53 16 September 2009 at 11:31am | IP Logged |
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. Edited by gbarv on 23 September 2009 at 6:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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