GoingGoingGone Newbie United States Joined 5670 days ago 28 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French, Swedish, Mandarin
| Message 49 of 53 17 September 2009 at 4:47pm | IP Logged |
First, thanks for the original poster's great post. Language learning takes a great deal of self-discipline. While it is fun if you find the right methods, for someone who works long hours and leads a busy life it takes effort to stay on track with your lessons instead of giving in to the temptation to be lazy and fall off the wagon. The suggestions seem like they could be helpful to a lot of people.
I agree with the person who said many people "bite off more than they can chew" and adjust their plans. I fall into this category. I fell off the wagon because I "bit off more than I could chew" and I am able to get back on track by reducing the number of hours of study and number of languages studied at once. Expecting too much of yourself is the surest way for someone to make sure they will give up, quit, and fail.
I disagree with the person who said our goal for our languages for everyone is "fluency". I am sure many people on these forums seek fluency, but I learn for fun and greater communication for travel. The only language commonly spoken where I live besides English is Spanish and I think without an opportunity to talk to people in your language on a regular basis I think it would be very, very hard to become fluent. My goal is to become conversational in several languages rather than fluent in one or more. Maybe someday when I have a lot more money for travel fluency may become an attainable goal.
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vb Octoglot Senior Member Afghanistan Joined 6424 days ago 112 posts - 135 votes Speaks: English, Romanian, French, Polish, Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian, Swedish
| Message 50 of 53 17 September 2009 at 6:01pm | IP Logged |
Bao wrote:
in order to avoid the social consequences that follow when you have a real reason to feel shame and are found out, shame leads to concealing behaviour (why didn't you choose embarrassment? at least it's easier to deal with) |
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I choose this strongly negative emotion as a motivator primarily to compensate for my natural underlying smugness, which neither believes that work needs to be done nor sees the point of it in the first place. I suppose that I am affecting shame rather than indulging a natural tendency. It's also still a self-regarding move in that I enjoy 'watching myself' cope with the 'rigour' of the hard work that I 'put myself through'. Essentially. positive motivators are not macho enough for me.
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5768 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 51 of 53 17 September 2009 at 10:21pm | IP Logged |
vb wrote:
Essentially. positive motivators are not macho enough for me. |
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Sometimes I'm glad I'm female. =D
I mean, if it works for you it's good for you.
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lancemanion Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5574 days ago 150 posts - 166 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Thai Studies: French, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 52 of 53 18 September 2009 at 12:57am | IP Logged |
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(because, oh, Thai! Oh, Cherokee! shiny~) |
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Heh heh, this cracked me up. I suffer from the same affliction.
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5768 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 53 of 53 18 September 2009 at 1:31am | IP Logged |
But who doesn't? ;D
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