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| masha_light Diglot Groupie Russian Federation Joined 5243 days ago 54 posts - 82 votes  Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 9 of 22 01 December 2010 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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I might be wrong... Pelevin - postmodernism, Strugatskie - fantastic, Grishkovets and Sanaev - just prose, maybe novels, I'm not that sure...
I like all of them, Pelevin is rather weird but very interesting, Strugatskie erm... blow my mind up (?, взрыв мозга), Sanaev's novel is about a boy, it's an autobiographic one, and so are Grishkovets's stories... Merely choose what you think will suit your taste. =) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Siberiano Tetraglot Senior Member Russian Federation one-giant-leap.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6521 days ago 465 posts - 696 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, ItalianC1, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Serbian | Message 10 of 22 01 December 2010 at 9:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Да, взрыв или вынос мозга = blow one's mind. (Для инстранцев: это новый сленг эпохи интернета) Edited by Siberiano on 01 December 2010 at 9:51pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Omenapuu00 Tetraglot Newbie United States Joined 5136 days ago 10 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian, Swedish | Message 11 of 22 02 December 2010 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | ||
You bring up an interesting point to expound upon, Milaneva. Reading great literature is not simply about extracting a literal word-for-word comprehension of the text, but being able to really catch the "feel" and "essence" of a piece of work is truly what is at the heart of appreciating literary accomplishments. When I first really started studying languages, in the back of my head I felt like I would never really have the ability to capture this "essence" when reading any foreign texts, and it was always sort of discouraging. However, recently, as I've really started to read Russian literature to a much greater extent than previously, I am realizing that I am not only capturing the literal but the figurative as well. I think what helped a lot is reading a variety of short stories, prose, poetry, and plays from a wide variety of different authors. I think only once you have a base for what different styles are out there and how writings differ from each other can you really grasp what the author intended for the reader. I don't know, what do you think? Do you think someone who has not grown up speaking a language since childhood can really ever truly grasp the feel of foreign texts? and do you think there are techniques for developing this sort of awareness? I'm interested in what people think! :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Tka Tka Pentaglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 5088 days ago 1 posts - 2 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, German, Spanish, Tagalog Studies: Japanese, French, Finnish, Latin, Ancient Greek | Message 12 of 22 17 January 2011 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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If asked to pick THE most difficult author in Russia, I'd go with Sasha Sokolov (Саша
Соколов). E.g. Mezhdu sobakoi i volkom/Между собакой и волком. The book is absolutely amazing, but it requires a lot of concentration even from a native speaker. Other choices would be Venedict Yerofeev/Венедикт Ерофеев, Vladimir Sorokin/Владимир Сорокин, or maybe some late 20th-century poetry (e.g. Arkadiy Dragomoschenko/Аркадий Драгомощенко, Alexei Parschikov/Алексей Парщиков or Alexander Skidan/Александр Скидан) Edited by Tka Tka on 17 January 2011 at 11:27pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| rekenavri Pentaglot Newbie Belarus Joined 5941 days ago 14 posts - 16 votes Speaks: English, Belarusian, Russian*, Polish, Spanish Studies: French, German | Message 13 of 22 04 February 2011 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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Dostoyevsky. His style is very hard even for native speakers.
Sasha Sokolov in 20th century. "Russian James Joyce". I really can't understand, how was it possible to translate hid second novel ("Between Dog and Wolf") to English. I don't understand some epysodes of it even in Russian! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Laole Tetraglot Newbie Portugal Joined 5136 days ago 9 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Ukrainian, Russian*, Polish, English Studies: Portuguese | Message 14 of 22 05 February 2011 at 2:05pm | IP Logged | ||
I know what you mean, and I agree that it's interesting question. Yes, I think a person that enjoys literature, can, as you say, grasp the feel of foreign texts. Understanding of 100% vocabulary is not necessary for that. Just a little "but" - first you have to fight with... who knows... 3000 pages? Only after, the moment comes when you "can feel it". Everyday I read books in 3-4 languages, so I can say, there is no magic border between native and foreign language when it comes to understanding literature. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Sasha_Kiselev Newbie Russian Federation Joined 4837 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 15 of 22 26 September 2011 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes. Indeed, I think you just hit the nail on the head! I have some kind of allergy on his writing. I don't want to say he's bad (it would sound silly anyway), but the fact is I cannot read it. I want to try to read it in English as my vocabulary gets a bit better. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fulushou3 Newbie Russian Federation Joined 4830 days ago 17 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 16 of 22 02 October 2011 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Зощенко, Михаил (Zoshchenko, Mikhail). Have you read his stories? They are full of some
kind of linguistic irony. I think you must know Russian pretty well to understand all these hints, tinges, nuances he uses in his works. And don't be fooled by deceptive simplicity, Zoshchenko is a virtuoso. But he breaks rules of Russian grammar, creates strange and funny usage of words, so don't use his prose as supplement to your learning materials. Also I can recommend short works by Yevgeny Zamyatin (Замятин, Евгений). They are both classics of the XXth century (the former is extremely popular, the latter is almost forgotten). And to my opinion they are both absolutely untranslatable. Edited by fulushou3 on 02 October 2011 at 10:37am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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