Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 5145 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese*
| Message 9 of 17 27 January 2011 at 9:20pm | IP Logged |
I´m not liking to ask this, but Is he sane?
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5129 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 10 of 17 27 January 2011 at 10:37pm | IP Logged |
translator2 wrote:
I say we put Mr. Riethmiller, Mr. Fazah, Mr. Cox and Mr. Monteleone in a ring and let them duke it out. |
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Or how about we just ignore them and get on with our own lives?
What is it with this need to be recognized as the greatest polyglot by all these people?
It's pathological.
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tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6068 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 11 of 17 28 January 2011 at 1:10am | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
translator2 wrote:
I say we put Mr. Riethmiller, Mr. Fazah, Mr. Cox and Mr. Monteleone in a ring and let them duke it out. |
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Or how about we just ignore them and get on with our own lives?
What is it with this need to be recognized as the greatest polyglot by all these people?
It's pathological.
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I think you missed the point hrhenry
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tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6068 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 17 28 January 2011 at 8:10am | IP Logged |
Gorgoll2 wrote:
I´m not liking to ask this, but Is he sane? |
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you mean the hippie style and beat poetry? :P
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5129 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 13 of 17 28 January 2011 at 2:17pm | IP Logged |
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I think you missed the point hrhenry |
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Most definitely. I don't see one at all.
It's pointless to figure out what he (or any other self-proclaimed polyglot) is doing to speak that many languages. Aside from gaining himself some publicity, no one else actually gains anything.
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tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6068 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 14 of 17 28 January 2011 at 4:36pm | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
tmp011007 wrote:
I think you missed the point hrhenry |
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Most definitely. I don't see one at all.
It's pointless to figure out what he (or any other self-proclaimed polyglot) is doing to speak that many languages. Aside from gaining himself some publicity, no one else actually gains anything.
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ok, my bad. let me try to explain my point of view about it
the tittle "lee riethmiller 113 languages (?)" was intentionally provocative. I got that number from his "offering courses list" but a member of this forum actually quoted the right webpage in x-other forum:
@jeff_lindqvist wrote:
How about some other quotes from the actual home page:
"Lee K. Riethmiller, honed his fluency in the twenty-six languages he currently speaks" - OK, still a lot of languages, but not the same as 70/113/130.
"By 1976, he was teaching 150 students a week in seven languages - Spanish, French, Portuguese, Italian, German, Greek, and Arabic." - Not a rare collection of languages for somebody who knows more than half a dozen.
"We currently offer 114 languages including Accent Reduction for American English speakers." - 'We' probably refers to several tutors using the method developed by Riethmiller. I don't see where it says that _he_ is the one teaching them all. |
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then, so far MegatronFilm's (70 languages) and actual Riethmiller's language program webpage (26 languages) versions are quite different... even worse, there's another version
http://somerville.patch.com/articles/polyglot-professor wrote:
I'm passing past the 45 mark now...
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well, this self-proclaimed polyglot "says" 26 and 45 not 70 or 113 (again, my bad :P)
it is pointless if he's not as good as he says or if he's good enough but we (at least I) don't get anything new/convenient/practicable of his approaches
I confess my sin, I fell in love with this
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Riethmiller believes affinity for languages has to be built and even goes as far to say that the hardest thing you can do to learn a language is to only focus on one: "The moment that you have at least two, one can go interactive with the other one, it gets easier and then you add three and the fizz that you get, gets even more. People experience that it's not only easier, but it's almost an enzyme,"
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and this
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He believes that you learn languages faster and with better recall if you study multiple languages concurrently. He never really said why, but my oversimplified explanation is that this is similar to the better recall/comprehension claims of speed reading. There are other reasons why this makes sense from a mnemonics perspective, and it has the added benefit of being very appealing from a student perspective (learn more in less time).
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I'm not interested in "hero cults" at all. this post was/is just a simple and poor way to try to contact someone reliable who maybe would be able to tell us (me) if Mr. Riethmiller has or has not good language skills, and maybe, if I'm lucky enough, be able to get some more details about his approaches... that's all
it seems to be his method lies on mnemonics and mental association, and in my opinion (not very humble, I can tell lol) there are a lot to explore about specific techniques on those fields related to language learning
p.d. I'd try to contact Mr Riethmiller myself but my English language/social skills are quite poor so far (besides some people here could do an excellent job "rating" (?) his language skills. I could barely rate his Spanish -I know rate is not the right word but...)
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Gorgoll2 Senior Member Brazil veritassword.blogspo Joined 5145 days ago 159 posts - 192 votes Speaks: Portuguese*
| Message 15 of 17 29 January 2011 at 2:52am | IP Logged |
you mean the hippie style and beat poetry? :P
Every his aspects are quite crazy.
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tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6068 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 16 of 17 21 February 2012 at 1:38am | IP Logged |
some info would be nice :(
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