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| Kisfroccs Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5410 days ago 388 posts - 549 votes  Speaks: French*, German*, EnglishC1, Swiss-German, Hungarian Studies: Italian, Serbo-Croatian | Message 1 of 14 06 August 2011 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hello all !
After dabbling in Croatian, going to Croatia and finding out that in fact, I don't really like Croatian, I decided to turn myself to Slovenian. My first choice before Croatian but because of lack of study material, I choosed the latter... So my questions : Where do I find study material, what's the best etc. In Switzerland I didn't find anything... Who has studied it ? Any feedback ? I met a slovenian girl in Croatia and then in the train a couple (I passed through Ljubljana with the night train) and they were really kind, even they chatted all the time in Slovenian. And my main motivation is a film I watched from Damjan Kojole - Slovenka. Thanks in advance for all replies ! Zsófi 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 2 of 14 06 August 2011 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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See the sections "Books" and "Links" at the Slovenian profile.
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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5274 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 3 of 14 06 August 2011 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | ||
I would advise against learning it. My father speaks it. The fact that it's spoken by a small group of people doesn't make it any easier than, say, Polish or Hungarian. Those two languages are hard enough as it is. All you get from Slovenian is access to Slovenia...and you don't even need to know Slovenian since you already know German and most people there know it as well. And to add another thing: unlike the Macedonian-Bulgarian and Czech-Slovak similarities, Slovenian is a bona fide language and is not significantly mutually intelligible with any other South Slavic language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kisfroccs Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5410 days ago 388 posts - 549 votes Speaks: French*, German*, EnglishC1, Swiss-German, Hungarian Studies: Italian, Serbo-Croatian | Message 4 of 14 06 August 2011 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't necessarily search for "usefullness" in itself : look at my Hungarian, it isn't really usefull in itself other than communicate with locals. It is something to consider that Slovenian is not mutually intelligible. By the way, the only words I really could understand in Croatia were slavic loan words in Hungarian. But I wonder if I start to study Slovenian, how long my motivation will last. This is why I search for someone who has studied it and can relate his experience (thanks by the way Chung ;). Köszi !). Thanks Merv for your point of view, I will take it into consideration ;) Zsófi Edited by Kisfroccs on 06 August 2011 at 8:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| t123 Diglot Senior Member South Africa https://github.com/t Joined 5612 days ago 139 posts - 226 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans | Message 5 of 14 06 August 2011 at 10:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I also looked into resources for Slovene in English and German a while back, and they seem to be hard to come by. Anyway the Centre for Slovene
lists the materials they use for their courses: http://www.centerslo.net/l2.asp?L1_ID=7&L2_ID=31&LANG=eng I don't have any of the books, so I can't tell you if they're any good or not. IIRC they range from A1 through B2. Edit: In Chung's thread I mentioned that the new Colloquial Slovene is coming on in November and basically the 1st edition is rubbish. I think I was confused, it was the Teach Yourself that was bad, and Colloquial was actually better. The book is simply too short, if you compare it to the TY for the other Slavic languages you'll clearly see the problem. I think the audio on the CD was only something like 35-40 minutes, that's with all the English in between. I also found this blog post http://wheelville.blogspot.com/2008/04/you-can-learnsorta.ht ml which recommends A,B,C,1,2,3...Gremo as a starter book. Edited by t123 on 06 August 2011 at 11:00pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 6 of 14 07 August 2011 at 2:53am | IP Logged | ||
Really? Colloquial Slovene was just as bad as TY Slovene in my experience. Why different publishers would have their respective courses for the same language created by the same author (Albretti) is beyond me. Albretti seems to like skimming over things and my guess is that as a teacher (per the limited description on the back cover of TY Slovene), she's doesn't seem to know how to put herself in the place of learners who would learn Slovenian on their own. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| t123 Diglot Senior Member South Africa https://github.com/t Joined 5612 days ago 139 posts - 226 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans | Message 7 of 14 07 August 2011 at 10:23am | IP Logged | ||
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I probably should have said better of the two instead, both of them are bad and I wouldn't recommend buying either. Perhaps I have some bias because I
started with TY and once I realised how bad it was moved onto to Colloquial, and by that time I was more immune to how bad Colloquial was. If I had done them the other way around perhaps I would say Colloquial was worse. If I were rating them on Amazon or something, they would both get 1 star from me. I think another problem for Albretti is also that there aren't any other books for Slovene in English. For popular languages like German/French etc authors can looks through all the competitions books and get a really good idea of how to structure their course and what works. The publishers are also too blame though, they would never have published a German/French etc book of that low quality, it would never have sold. The publishers seemed to have the opinion that there's no competition and not many Slovene students, let's get any old junk out there. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kisfroccs Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5410 days ago 388 posts - 549 votes Speaks: French*, German*, EnglishC1, Swiss-German, Hungarian Studies: Italian, Serbo-Croatian | Message 8 of 14 12 August 2011 at 7:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have found a book : Slovene - Asiathèque, has anyone experience with this serie (or has the book... ? :)). These days, I'm broken, so I can't afford to buy the book, so it gives me a reason to think about it.
Anyone knows Asiathèque ? Zsófi 1 person has voted this message useful |
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