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Underestimating CEFR levels
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Serpent
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27 March 2012 at 11:36pm | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

Building gramatically correct sentences is not so simple. There is hard to get grammar even in very simple sentences. Like English articles, for example. Or phrases which require gen. pl. in Russian.

Sure but you should be able to say at least basic things correctly. IDK, to me only Icelandic is monstrous enough that it's normal to be unable to produce a single correct utterance for some time.
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28 March 2012 at 11:07am | IP Logged

But if you say something like Water is cold instead The water is cold. I have five
friends is a simple sentence but У меня пять друзей. Do you think друзей is easy to
predict?
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28 March 2012 at 11:42am | IP Logged

Or

I don't have three friends
У меня нет трех друзей

... and this is why my Russian is stuck at A2.
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Serpent
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29 March 2012 at 2:21am | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

But if you say something like Water is cold instead The water is cold. I have five
friends is a simple sentence but У меня пять друзей. Do you think друзей is easy to
predict?

Yeah, what counts as simple depends on the language.

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