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tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6071 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 25 of 51 07 May 2012 at 3:33am | IP Logged |
translator2 wrote:
I think there is more than one installment because Steve Kaufmann has published a preview of Part Two on his youtube channel.
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AFAIR, it was Keith Swayne (CanadianLinguist) the one who published those previews and, unfortunatelly, it seems to be there are not going to be any more installments :'(
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5849 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 26 of 51 07 May 2012 at 8:23am | IP Logged |
Torbyrne wrote:
Tim and I realised that there would be little chance of much of what we filmed to be used in the show. There
are only so many minutes in a 15 minute programme, right? ;p
So we made some clips ourselves afterwards, which we will now be able to release. We had to sit on them
until the show aired, so that the first placed we'd be seen together would be on 16x9.
I will start checking out the material on my SD card and pop up some things on my YouTube channel soon. I
will put links on my blog, Facebook page and Twitter. Of course, I will also pop in a link or two here too for
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I am looking forward to this video material very much. Wise idea to make some extra recordings!
Fasulye
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| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5036 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 27 of 51 07 May 2012 at 3:01pm | IP Logged |
I wish we could have seen more of Arrekkusu. He's one of my forum heroes anyway, so it would have been a treat.
I realize the article had to be heavily edited, but any beginner can say "My name is..." in a target language. That alone doesn't indicate much skill even if it was the easiest thing to put into the piece.
And to Richard, I must say that I did enjoy your grasp of accents, in particular the Finn speaking English accent. I had that moment of revelation that, "I guess they DO sound like that!"
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| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5420 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 28 of 51 07 May 2012 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
Looking forward to seeing more material!
I was also disappointed with the inference of hyperpolyglots being special in having the ability to learn many languages with only the polyglots themselves providing a contrary view. I was annoyed at the fact the producers only consulted one neurolinguist and seemingly not a very good one at that. She is either somehow completely ignorant of, or just completely ignores the implications of neuroplasticity. This is hardly fringe neuroscience and has been in the news often so that laymen like me even know of it.
If you intensely use a part of the brain through learning then more connections are made and the brain changes, making it easier to perform the action you are learning or performing, and this still happens in adulthood. There are plenty of supporting studies, the most famous being the one about London taxi drivers who have to learn the placements of 25,000 streets as well as 20,000 landmarks within a 6 mile radius. As a result of this training, their hippocampus gets bigger.
Here is some further reading on 15 examples of neuroplasticity if anyone is interested:
Neuroplasticity in Action
It's a shame the programme wasn't longer and better researched.
Edited by jazzboy.bebop on 07 May 2012 at 7:00pm
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 29 of 51 07 May 2012 at 3:40pm | IP Logged |
jdmoncada wrote:
I wish we could have seen more of Arrekkusu. He's one of my forum heroes anyway, so it would have been a treat.
I realize the article had to be heavily edited, but any beginner can say "My name is..." in a target language. That alone doesn't indicate much skill even if it was the easiest thing to put into the piece. |
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The "My name is..." blurb wasn't meant as a display of ability, but just as a cool way to introduce the guests. We picked a language and just did it. There was footage of us speaking other languages, especially when we naturally broke into various languages at the beginning of the meeting (and you can briefly hear Steve answer one of my questions in Japanese), but when you think of it, how would they have presented that footage? With subtitles? They took so little of it anyway, and it was so dense, that they must have opted against it.
As for filming it for ourselves, we were in a recording studio and didn't have that luxury.
On a personal level, it was a wonderful experience, even though little of it became public.
Edited by Arekkusu on 07 May 2012 at 3:42pm
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songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5211 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map
| Message 30 of 51 08 May 2012 at 5:39am | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
On a personal level, it was a wonderful experience... |
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Yes, I imagine it must have been. I echo others in wishing that more of the group discussion had been shown;
and/ or a more in-depth programme could be made as a follow-up.
A couple of nuts-and-bolts questions (for any of the participants): how long was the panel seated in that "tiered"
configuration? It looked somewhat uncomfortable for those in the back row, and very interviewer-oriented. And
how much of the session was "interview" style? - How much time did you folks have to have real discussions
/arguments amongst yourselves, rather than answering questions posed by the interviewer?
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 31 of 51 08 May 2012 at 5:56am | IP Logged |
songlines wrote:
Arekkusu wrote:
On a personal level, it was a wonderful experience... |
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Yes, I imagine it must have been. I echo others in wishing that more of the group discussion had been
shown;
and/ or a more in-depth programme could be made as a follow-up.
A couple of nuts-and-bolts questions (for any of the participants): how long was the panel seated in that
"tiered"
configuration? It looked somewhat uncomfortable for those in the back row, and very interviewer-oriented.
And
how much of the session was "interview" style? - How much time did you folks have to have real discussions
/arguments amongst yourselves, rather than answering questions posed by the interviewer?
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We sat there for a good two hours, with a short break in the middle. We got to talk for perhaps 45 minutes or
so before it began (you can see use entering the studio and chatting), and I got to talk with Steve and Keith
during the taxi ride to and from the studio.
There was actually a fair bit of discussion between us, a lot more than the resulting footage would have you
believe, but the questions came indeed mostly from the host. Towards the end, I was asked to put a question
in French to the other participants and I asked whether they thought it odd that a lot of Canadians opt for
European French instead of Québec French. Apart from Steve, everyone seemed to think that Canadian
French should be better promoted and taught.
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| Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6870 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language
| Message 32 of 51 08 May 2012 at 10:05am | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
Apart from Steve, everyone seemed to think that Canadian
French should be better promoted and taught. |
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Naturally! :-) It's actually the version of French I would like to learn, but all the resources I've found are in European French.
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