sillygoose1 Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4638 days ago 566 posts - 814 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: German, Latin
| Message 33 of 51 08 May 2012 at 2:05pm | IP Logged |
Never mind had to use IE
Good video
Edited by sillygoose1 on 08 May 2012 at 2:27pm
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Midnight Diglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4641 days ago 54 posts - 111 votes Speaks: Czech*, English
| Message 34 of 51 09 May 2012 at 12:50pm | IP Logged |
Can Tim really speak all those languages? I mean I bought an Anime magazine in France and I could probably sing along the lyrics of Arash's Boro Boro without even knowing the alphabet. 20 languages in 3 years? I guess this is the way MASS media works.
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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6472 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 35 of 51 09 May 2012 at 2:11pm | IP Logged |
Midnight wrote:
Can Tim really speak all those languages? I mean I bought an Anime
magazine in France and I could probably sing along the lyrics of Arash's Boro Boro
without even knowing the alphabet. 20 languages in 3 years? I guess this is the way MASS
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His Swahili sounded good to me...
Also keep in mind that he's studying 6-8 hours a day. With that kind of time commitment
and discipline, any of us could meet our goals much faster.
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Midnight Diglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4641 days ago 54 posts - 111 votes Speaks: Czech*, English
| Message 36 of 51 09 May 2012 at 2:54pm | IP Logged |
Okay. And yes his Russian seemed really great, but the thing is I find the recent popping up of YT polyglots quite suspicious. I mean how is it possible there are so many of them out of sudden? Yes internet has become a tool to get to more resources than the local library, but it has also brought "faking" to mind.
http://uloz.to/xyBTKFM/hungarian-fake-wav
I this recording I'm saying that I'm a Czech native speaker and teacher interested in theater plays movies and that I speak English, German and Hungarian fluently. I've made this video in a hurry, but that doesn't mean it's not Hungarian (the stress may be off) and I don't even know a single word in it.
All I needed was to write a single sentence to GT and use google on the output and then I find a DATING WEBSITE or something, copied the text and made a few changes. So while others would say I was using GT. Hungarian natives would probably say: "Nice, you did this and that wrong, but keep up the good work." And I made this in a 10 minutes so you all can imagine what youtube polyglot videos can be made of.
P.S. I'm not saying Tim's not a polyglot, in case it seems so. I'm just saying that we can't judge someone's level based on 5 minutes-long video and that altough he has been studying 20 languages in total, doesn't mean he's fluent in all of them etc. etc. etc.
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Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6870 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language
| Message 37 of 51 09 May 2012 at 3:38pm | IP Logged |
Learning large numbers of languages is nothing new under the sun. It's rare but not original. It's not that polyglots are suddenly popping up, but it could very well be that they are finally able to make their presence known.
Years ago before YouTube was even invented I had the idea of making a multilingual video, showcasing my skills and asking for advice from natives and other advanced speakers. I've never yet made such a video because I don't speak the number of languages I want to before I feel qualified to call myself a "polyglot" (by my personal standards, at least 5 fluently). Nevertheless I never told anyone about this dream of mine, and didn't really think anyone shared it. Clearly I was wrong! :-D
EDIT: Midnight, is there a way we can listen to your file without filling out that pop-up that appears whenever one clicks on the "soubor" button?
Edited by Journeyer on 09 May 2012 at 3:39pm
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Midnight Diglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4641 days ago 54 posts - 111 votes Speaks: Czech*, English
| Message 38 of 51 09 May 2012 at 3:59pm | IP Logged |
Journeyer: I see. I'll repost it in English
http://www.ulozto.net/xyBTKFM/hungarian-fake-wav
All you have to do is click on the Download button and write down those four letters. I'd reupload it, but I'm currently at dad's and he has slow internet connection, otherwise I'd make a video and upload it on youtube. Moreover most of the streaming sites require registration. I hope this helped.
And I know all this, but imagine there's no internet (John Lennon :) and all of them would have to learn the old fashioned way. I prefer books because I like the feel and smell of them, but I'm not saying websites like nciku.com where you can handwrite hanzi aren't useful, but it can attract the wrong sort and then it's not so easy to tell them apart.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 39 of 51 09 May 2012 at 4:04pm | IP Logged |
Midnight wrote:
Okay. And yes his Russian seemed really great, but the thing is I find the recent popping up of YT polyglots quite suspicious. I mean how is it possible there are so many of them out of sudden? Yes internet has become a tool to get to more resources than the local library, but it has also brought "faking" to mind. |
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"A lot" in Youtube can still mean a statistically incredibly small number like 1 in a 1000 or less. When you look at Youtube, you are looking at the world, not your neighbourhood.
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Midnight Diglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4641 days ago 54 posts - 111 votes Speaks: Czech*, English
| Message 40 of 51 09 May 2012 at 4:14pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
Midnight wrote:
Okay. And yes his Russian seemed really great, but the thing is I find the recent popping up of YT polyglots quite suspicious. I mean how is it possible there are so many of them out of sudden? Yes internet has become a tool to get to more resources than the local library, but it has also brought "faking" to mind. |
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"A lot" in Youtube can still mean a statistically incredibly small number like 1 in a 1000 or less. When you look at Youtube, you are looking at the world, not your neighbourhood. |
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Interesting point. Btw. I find the video to be aimed especially at laymen. And I doubt Xhosa is a "tribal" language when it has more than 7 million speakers.
EDIT: I find it hilarious when I chat with people online. One day I met a Brazilian and he thought I spoke great Russian and German, just because he didn't speak any Russian. Then a Chinese girl came and he said the only phrase he knew: Ni hao ma? I answered: 我很好。你呢?And he was like: OMG! You speak Chinese.
I mean it's so easy to make people think you speak a foreign language based on such trivial phrases or being intermediate. I've never ever take an advantage of it though.
Edited by Midnight on 09 May 2012 at 5:09pm
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