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| LorenzoGuapo Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6445 days ago 79 posts - 94 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: French | Message 1 of 9 04 April 2013 at 8:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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There is been a British citizen who also holds French citizenchip voted as an immmortal to the Academie Francaise, here is the link, and what does everyone think of that?
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| seldnar Senior Member United States Joined 7133 days ago 189 posts - 287 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, French, Greek | Message 2 of 9 05 April 2013 at 4:43am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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I wonder what the headlines said when François Cheng, a Chinese-born French writer, was
elected to the 40 immortels.. Francois Cheng 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 9 05 April 2013 at 7:21am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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This is a very interesting article, so the French are open-minded, when foreigners want to protect the French language!
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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4640 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 4 of 9 05 April 2013 at 9:34am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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There are no nationality requirements for being one of "les immortels". One of the last to be elected before Michael Edwards was the Lebanese-born writer Amin Maalouf. And French media certainly don't make any fuss about the fact that he is British. My impression is that the French admire "foreigners" who become French citizens and contribute to the arts and to the French language - and in France writers are generally held in high esteem.
By the way, Michael Edwards also speaks Italian and Spanish, and he reads Latin and Greek. Here is an interesting interview with him (in French). I especially like his statement "Le réel est polyglotte" (Reality is polyglot). (Edit: stupid typo corrected.) Edited by Ogrim on 05 April 2013 at 10:07am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Saim Pentaglot Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5084 days ago 124 posts - 215 votes Speaks: Serbo-Croatian, English*, Catalan, Spanish, Polish Studies: Dutch, Portuguese, Italian, Occitan, Punjabi, Urdu, Arabic (Maghribi), French, Modern Hebrew, Ukrainian, Slovenian | Message 5 of 9 08 April 2013 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
This is quite rich coming from a representative of an organization that is against the recognition of minority languages within France (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/17/france). They're projecting their own insecurities of what they did to Occitan and Basque; in short, a totally baseless victimhood complex. Once these language fascists recognize the "regional" languages or " patios" as the Francocentrists call them, then maybe I'll begin to start to believe their claim to "defend the French language". In other words, I'll never believe it, because they'll never do that. They're not real lovers of language, they're simply French supremacists whose understanding of our planet's rich linguistic diversity is infected by a disgusting complex of superiority. Open minded? They accept an English guy who is pro-French but they look down on their own citizens who happen to care at all about the rest of the rich and beautiful linguistic patrimony (oh, no I forgot, they're "rural dialects") that is found within the French Republic. That's not very open-minded now, is it? The Acadamie française represents the very worst France has to offer. The real France - plural and diverse - is endlessly better and more interesting than this ridiculous relic of 18th century nationalism. Edited by Saim on 08 April 2013 at 7:59pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5961 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin | Message 6 of 9 09 April 2013 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
You don't need to love all languages in order to be a language lover/enthusiast. For example, it's not hard to find people around here who can't stand Vietnamese. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Saim Pentaglot Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5084 days ago 124 posts - 215 votes Speaks: Serbo-Croatian, English*, Catalan, Spanish, Polish Studies: Dutch, Portuguese, Italian, Occitan, Punjabi, Urdu, Arabic (Maghribi), French, Modern Hebrew, Ukrainian, Slovenian | Message 7 of 9 09 April 2013 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
If they actively promoted the extintion of Vietnamese, then yes I would consider them language supremacists no matter how many languages they've learned. Still not convinced? Let's look at some of the things this particular individual has said.
Wrong. Languages are threatened by the bilingualization of their populations, not by some individuals learning a foreign language to a low level. English was heavily influenced by French under 400 years of Norman occupation, but was never under any real threat of replacement because French remained the language of a small section of the elite.
How can you take "very seriously" a subjective value judgement, and one that has become dominant in many societies through propaganda and imperialism?
Oh poor poor English, only the dominant language of the world!
Which is what non-native speakers of languages have done for millenia, and has usually done nothing to change the dominant language, unless they adopt it as their native language and then obviously their native dialect will be influenced by a substrate of the previous language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 8 of 9 10 April 2013 at 8:46am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Whatever the quality of the academy's
political views, the rules they uphold towards the French language are the ones in question. Those are not as deserving of criticism as we make it out to be. That said I consider their attitude to the Breton language scandalous. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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