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Mnemonics: Good or Bad?

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Akalabeth
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 Message 9 of 27
11 July 2010 at 3:25pm | IP Logged 
I used mnemonics with Heisig to learn how to write the Kanji, and I'm confident I
wouldn't have been able to learn them as nearly as quickly without. Also, whenever I find
multiple words whose pronunciations I keep confusing, I make a mnemonic to associate the
pronunciation with the meaning, and after that point I tend to never get them confused
again.

As for overrelying on them (as recalling something with a mnemonic does tend to be a
little slower than without) I've found that if you study the information in multiple
contexts you will be able to remember the thing without the mnemonic. Since with language
learning you should see any words you learn in multiple places, I haven't had much
problem with using them.
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dolly
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 Message 10 of 27
11 July 2010 at 4:17pm | IP Logged 
Mnemonics are great for lists, like the acronym "Keep pond clean or frogs get sick" for taxonomic ranks in zoology. But natural memory is adequate for learning vocabulary. Creating a mnemonic for every new word turns language learning into a Rube Goldberg machine.
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feanarosurion
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 Message 11 of 27
11 July 2010 at 9:43pm | IP Logged 
remix wrote:
"I don't use them myself, and I've never really felt like they help me to memorize anything." Wow, that actually makes zero sense - how could something help you if you never use it?

They definitely have a place and are more useful in certain languages. Ask anyone who has learned Kanji with Heisig's method, it is a powerful tool, but not the be all end all.


Sorry I should have clarified. I have tried them in the past, they didn't seem to help, only to get in the way, and I don't use them now anymore.

Some excellent points so far though. Just for the record, I don't want to imply that mnemonics can't be a useful tool at all. If they work, great. But for me, they just seem to get in the way. That's my take on it.
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 Message 12 of 27
12 July 2010 at 6:26am | IP Logged 
I do if I have problems with it. Works fine for me.
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patlajan
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 Message 13 of 27
13 July 2010 at 11:24pm | IP Logged 
Mnemonics have their uses: little rhymes for difficult or closely related words, for Chinese and Japanese writing systems, and one I use use in some languages is to tag one article with a musical note, i.e. La La... I think this over time increases the chances of my getting it correct in conversation. The books by Jerry Lucas and Harry Larayne are worth checking out for more on this subject.

Rolf
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montmorency
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 Message 14 of 27
08 September 2011 at 4:00am | IP Logged 
Prepositions in German (taking various cases) seem to be appropriate candidates for mnemonics:

http://www.learn-german-smarter.com/learn-German-preposition s.html


Personally, I have problems remembering the mnemonics, but probably, that's just me.



An alternative could be example sentences, but really, that's just another mnemonic isn't it?



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 Message 15 of 27
08 September 2011 at 5:06pm | IP Logged 
montmorency wrote:
Personally, I have problems remembering the mnemonics, but probably, that's just me.

An alternative could be example sentences, but really, that's just another mnemonic isn't it?

I can't remember mnemonics for language-related information either. Sample sentences are different, but only when I learn them with some kind of meaningful context.
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jdmoncada
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 Message 16 of 27
08 September 2011 at 7:21pm | IP Logged 
I use visual mnemonics to remember kanji and kana. It works for what I need it to do, but I don't rely heavily on it for other things. I am unclear as to how one would otherwise use mnemonics in language learning.


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