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ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5163 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 33 of 55 27 July 2011 at 4:02pm | IP Logged |
chrisphillips71 wrote:
ScottScheule,
Are you aware that you can use the googletts app to add audio to each card automatically?
If not, send me a message and I will explain to you how to do it. It took me a while to
figure it out, though once I figured it out, it was very easy. While you only hear a
computer synthesized pronuniciation, the audio is pretty good and the process is much
easier than downloading each audio track. |
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I did not, thank you. I think I'll stick to Forvo though, as I want to hear native speakers.
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6610 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 34 of 55 27 July 2011 at 5:15pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
slucido wrote:
Mere Repetition= learning languages |
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Mere repetition = a lamentable waste of your time
Spread-out repetition = an indispensable part of learning languages |
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Spread-out repetition is just a way of mere repetition.
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| FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6800 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 35 of 55 06 August 2011 at 12:23am | IP Logged |
I read novels in the target language. As I read, I circle the words I don"t know in pencil, but continue reading. At the end of the chapter, I make a list on a piece of paper of the words in that chapter I didn't get. Then I make flashcards for them.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6638 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 36 of 55 06 August 2011 at 9:15am | IP Logged |
slucido wrote:
Iversen wrote:
slucido wrote:
Mere Repetition= learning languages |
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Mere repetition = a lamentable waste of your time
Spread-out repetition = an indispensable part of learning languages |
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Spread-out repetition is just a way of mere repetition.
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No, because with spread-out repetition you have done other things in between. With "mere" repetitionh you just set something in your brain spinning, and it carries on and on without any appreciable effort. Therefore 100 repetitions aren't 100 times as affective as one. With space in between you have to restart that little spinning thing (dragging something back from oblivion), and that's why spaced repetations are more effective.
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| floydak Tetraglot Groupie Slovakia Joined 4789 days ago 60 posts - 85 votes Speaks: Slovak*, English, German, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 37 of 55 11 August 2011 at 5:14pm | IP Logged |
what about recording those words to your mp3 player and then listen to them every moment
possible?
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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5163 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 38 of 55 11 August 2011 at 5:31pm | IP Logged |
Iversen, I think you and slucido are just defining words differently, not disagreeing.
floydak, that sounds like a strange idea. Do you mean just listening to lists of words? That doesn't sound particularly useful--better, I think, to listen to actual texts in the language.
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| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4969 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 39 of 55 11 August 2011 at 7:38pm | IP Logged |
FuroraCeltica wrote:
I read novels in the target language. As I read, I circle the words I don"t know in pencil, but continue reading. At the end of the chapter, I make a list on a piece of paper of the words in that chapter I didn't get. Then I make flashcards for them. |
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I've done this, too, in Finnish with trashy romance novels and the entire set of Narnia books. It's a great tool. I don't feel so bad writing in paperback books.
I also do a think that Iverson mentioned: word association.
When I was trying to memorize the Japanese word "ikura" (how much?) it reminded me of the Finnish word "ikkuna" (window). So I made a mental association of looking in a shop window and wondering how much something cost.
Actually, a lot of my learning/memorization goes through other languages I've learned instead of my native language. As I am currently focusing on Japanese, most of my thinking through the language is filtered through Spanish (first foreign language I learned) and Finnish (best foreign language I know).
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| TrentBooks Triglot Groupie United States TrentBooks.com Joined 4789 days ago 43 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Guarani Studies: Biblical Hebrew, Japanese
| Message 40 of 55 11 August 2011 at 8:19pm | IP Logged |
A lot of great stuff in the comments of this post. The best way I have found to remember vocabulary words is to use that word in a meaningful way somehow. To reach fluency, you need to be able to think in that language, so creating meaningful associations becomes really important. Eventually you will reach a point that you want to convey an object or concept to a person and you reach in your memory files for the right word to express it. When that word is the vocabulary you have studied (instead of your native language, which you then translate to the new vocabulary word), you know you're approaching fluency. Strictly memorizing vocabulary leads to constant internal translation during conversation, which is not a real sign of fluency. The only way I know to overcome this is to create meaningful associations between objects/concepts and the new vocabulary (as opposed to creating associations between two words of different languages), which I believe also helps speed up the memorization process. The benefits are two fold.
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