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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5316 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 9 of 13 17 August 2011 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thoughts to help you refine your plan:
It's commonly thought that listening leads to better speaking, but my experience tells me it's the other way around. Obviously, you need to listen to some native material, but take that material, repeat it, say it outloud and make it yours. Then play with it, turn it around, twist it around, use it to your advantage to express the things that matter in your life. Listening only does NOT lead to better speaking abilities. In turn, you will understand anything you can comfortably say.
There is nothing natural about only listening to a language. Communication requires that we make an effort to express ourselves. Production is an essential part of learning to speak a language. There are many things adult learners do much better and faster than children, but we don't have 24/7 teachers listening to our every word for years and we have limited time to devote to the task. But unlike children, we are able to talk about fairly complex topics right soon after we begin learning. Use that to your advantage.
What do you expect to gain from translating it? The ultimate goal is to understand language and know how to reply or contribute. If you understand it, there is no point in writing down in another language, is there? Edited by Arekkusu on 17 August 2011 at 5:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| floydak Tetraglot Groupie Slovakia Joined 4789 days ago 60 posts - 85 votes Speaks: Slovak*, English, German, Spanish Studies: French | Message 10 of 13 17 August 2011 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Arekkusu I agree with you in all points. About translating - I meant translate it in my
head- just to be able to understand to that text. Of course not to write it down.. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5316 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 11 of 13 17 August 2011 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Many people complain that they are unable to stop translating -- so I certainly wouldn't want to encourage you to do that! However, the other way around would be a good idea: take a recording or a text and translate it orally into your target language. You'll know right away what words or grammar you are missing and you will eventually patch every hole. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 12 of 13 17 August 2011 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Really effective learning is effortless. The brain is built for learning, and if something's painful, it's not working with the brain, but against it. I'm lucky enough to have had a few teachers in different subjects that made learning easy, and I'm lucky enough to have read several instructional books that also make understanding easy. But that's not to say that "easy=good", because some stuff is only easy because it doesn't teach anything difficult or important. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| misslanguages Diglot Senior Member France fluent-language.blog Joined 4781 days ago 190 posts - 217 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: German | Message 13 of 13 21 August 2011 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'm all for extensive listening. You can't learn a language unless you hear it spoken by native speakers a lot. Listening should be your top priority if you're a beginner.
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