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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4667 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 17 of 22 10 March 2012 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm intrigued. Why a rigid limit of 30 minutes per day? I can understand the importance
of setting a minimum from a discipline point of view. What I don't understand is the problem with having to spend an extra hour (or whatever) on Sunday typing in the next week's lessons. You'd picked an arbitrary time (30m) and it turned out to be an underestimate given your chosen method. Does it really matter that you'll be spending an extra 50 hours or so on your task? That's only six working days isn't it? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5671 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 18 of 22 10 March 2012 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | ||
Actually, I think 30 minutes is overly generous. According to several of my Assimil books, even just 10 minutes a day should be enough. Of course, I have no language talent whatsoever, plus I am an old man with a slow brain. I figured that three times the recommended 10 minutes should be plenty. One change I am prepared to make, if it proves necessary, is to split the 30 minutes up, into either two 15 minute sessions, or three 10 minute sessions each day. One of my very old Assimil books recommends this rather than one mammoth 30 minute session per day. Edited by Splog on 10 March 2012 at 6:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5595 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 19 of 22 31 March 2012 at 11:57am | IP Logged | ||
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Since it has been 3 weeks now since your last post, I was just wondering if you have
managed to maintain the daily lessons and continuation of the experiment. If I am not mistaken, you should be around the start of the active wave in the next few days. How have things been progressing so far Splog? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kronos Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5263 days ago 186 posts - 452 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 20 of 22 12 February 2013 at 9:14am | IP Logged | ||
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Today it's one year since Splog started this thread.
I wonder what became of the experiment. There is a fundamental problem in working with two different mediums - in this case a book and a computer programme: If you type all the words into a computer, the time this requires is more or less lost, no matter what the programme is going to do with them later. I see two alternatives: Both the texts/words and the process are operated by a computer system - such as in lingq, or also in SRS if you use prefabricated decks. The content is already there in digital form and the programme has direct access to it. The other is the traditional method - relying on printed material and your memory alone (which probably improves anyway if you don't make it rely too much on external means). As long as you stay with textbooks, other teaching material and readers this is no problem since you get a 'free' review of all the vocabulary by reviewing the lessons and lessons texts as a whole. It is more in the field of extensive reading where I see computer-assisted language learning having some real advantages over books, at least potentially. If there are no glosses in a book I simply won't learn any unknown words automatically, it won't go beyond guessing their meaning, and looking them up in a dictionary is inconvient and still they won't stick. Anyway: Happy Birthday to Splog, and let's hope that he will continue to delight us with his thoughtful and entertaining youtube videos. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 21 of 22 12 February 2013 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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As I was reading through the log, I kept thinking that the 30-minute a day regimen would become increasingly difficult to maintain as the later lessons require more work, more time, more concentration, more review AND the active wave takes up a fair amount of time. And then I realized this was written a year ago...
Looking forward to a final verdict from Splog.The fact that Italian doesn't show up as one of Splog's languages is not a very good sign, though. There is something about Assimil that does make a lot of people give up. For me, it's the lack of explanations and the fact that they pile on more new stuff without the previous stuff having been properly explained, understood, or "assimilated". It's so easy to say "don't worry, keep working, you'll get it all eventually", but if you're not getting it soon enough, it's overwhelming and you want to give up. What Assimil insists is a trademark, most often feels like a shortcoming. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kadin.Goldberg Newbie United States Joined 4435 days ago 30 posts - 34 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Swedish | Message 22 of 22 12 February 2013 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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I am very interested to see if Splog managed to keep it up for the whole year. I have
been doing assimil Italian for the last 2 months every day (except 1 day, I missed 1 day) and do not feel burnt out yet. I spend at least a half hour each day but some days I will spend 2 or more hours. Right now I am on lesson 12 of the active phase and while I can understand quite a bit of italian (especially with subtitles) I can't really come up with much on my own... I guess I just started the active phase and need to be patient. I hope Splog comes back and lets us know how it is going!! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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