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| pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish | Message 33 of 92 26 August 2012 at 1:30am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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@montmorency: I won't discount audiobooks, of course. I think I'd rather listen to the
audio and attempt to transcribe it, then check with the book for accuracy. My biggest problem with Swedish is understanding the spoken language, so I imagine transcription might be helpful. Thank you for the recommendation about Håkan Nesser. I'll definitely check it out; I've heard the translation of "Män som hatar kvinnor" was not that good, so hopefully this guy will present a good alternative. And a little bit of humor is always good. I finally went through and looked through all 156 words I'd written down. I'd say I know about 90% of them. Not bad - but I can do better. I highlighted the words I didn't know and then made up sentences for them. Some of them I doubt I'll learn well unless I run into them a lot, but it's worth a try at least. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish | Message 34 of 92 26 August 2012 at 4:49am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Just learned about "Elfdalian." Wow. I thought Icelandic and Faroese were the only ones
clinging to Old Norse, but up in Sweden Elfdalian's just chilling out. Very interesting and once my Swedish is... well, good, I'll definitely research this language a little more. Probably more material about it in Swedish than English. I'm not going to learn it, no matter how much my wanderlust is screaming, simply because there's... really no point to it. It'd be a cool language to study, but to actually learn to speak? There's probably very little material available in it. Only 3000 speakers - and I thought Icelandic was small. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 35 of 92 26 August 2012 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's a great idea actually, and something I should try as well.
In the interviews I heard (I'll try to post a link some time) it sounded like he had good relationships with his translators, and in the case of English, I'm sure he'd know if it wasn't up to scratch and wouldn't let it go out. Sadly, that was probably not possible in the case of Stieg Larsson for obvious reasons.
Sounds impressive to me! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish | Message 36 of 92 26 August 2012 at 6:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
It amazes me that in all the years I've been lurking on this forum (only recently made an account), I've never seen a mention of transcription as a method. Of course, I've only tried it out a little with songs and such, so I don't know how effective it would be. I found an interesting channel on Youtube that posts five-minute documentaries on the music scene in Sweden. Here is a documentary about Swedish hip-hop. The subtitles are in English, but if you pay attention you can link the Swedish words to the English. I should pay attention to Swedish numbers. I rarely pay much attention to numbers in languages, but I really should. Thankfully I'm not working with Danish which I've heard has a truly frightening number system. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4858 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 37 of 92 26 August 2012 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Wow, ambitious plans! Good luck then. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish | Message 38 of 92 26 August 2012 at 9:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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@prz_ - Yeah, I have an unfortunate tendency to have big plans but never finish them.
Hopefully this won't happen with either my dreams of linguistic autism research or my languages. Now comes the fun part - pointing and laughing at my accent. I've created an account on Soundcloud so that you can all hear my terrible Swedish accent. I'm mostly interested in, for example, the pitch-accent of words and such. I think my phonology is generally acceptable, if a little slow and articulated for Swedish ears, but I will gladly take recommendations. Help me sound less silly! Click here for major lols! I've also started going over "Swedish: An elementary grammar-reader" from the beginning. Because I want a more accurate estimate of how many words I know, I'm adding all the words from the beginning even though I should already know them. Let's call it more practice. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 39 of 92 26 August 2012 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The phonology is pretty OK (including the sj in 'sjön' - not bad at all!), you have a very foreign accent/prosody (my immediate thought was Arabic, wherever I got that from...), but I can understand you perfectly. There's nothing particularly strange with the speed.
Do you base your reading on some audio you have heard, or are you "just" reading a text aloud? Have you tried any shadowing yet? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 40 of 92 27 August 2012 at 12:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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FWIW, it sounded very convincing to me. Perhaps a little more "extrovert" sounding than
Swedes I have heard, but I imagine you were going for clarity to enhance accuracy. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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