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Russian Instrumental Case in -ю
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Josquin
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22 October 2012 at 10:49pm | IP Logged

So, I have come across the piece of information that Russian feminine nouns may take an instrumental case ending in -ою/-ею instead of -ой/-ей and that the instrumental case of она may be ею instead of ей. Additionally, the instrumental case of я and ты may be мною and тобою.

My question: How common are these endings and to what register of speech do they belong? Are they dated language or even literary register? Or do they depend on dialectal varieties? My guess is that the й-ending has developed from the ю-ending during some kind of linguistic simplification process. The latter is only fully preserved in the и-declination today.

Would this assumption be right? Thanks in advance for your answers!
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23 October 2012 at 12:31pm | IP Logged

Josquin wrote:

So, I have come across the piece of information that Russian feminine
nouns may take an instrumental case ending in -ою/-ею instead of -ой/-ей and that the
instrumental case of она may be ею instead of ей. Additionally, the instrumental case
of я and ты may be мною and тобою.

My question: How common are these endings and to what register of speech do they
belong? Are they dated language or even literary register? Or do they depend on
dialectal varieties? My guess is that the й-ending has developed from the ю-ending
during some kind of linguistic simplification process. The latter is only fully
preserved in the и-declination today.

Would this assumption be right? Thanks in advance for your answers!

These are the original forms. The forms мной, волной come from мною, волною (compare
встани - встань, читати - читать, Оля - Оль - unstressed vowels in endings can
desappear), so your guess is right, although I'm not sure that the third declension ю
was originally the same ending.
They do appear in usual speech, especially pronouns, but are more common in poetry.
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23 October 2012 at 2:07pm | IP Logged

Thanks a lot, Марк! That's the information I was looking for.
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24 October 2012 at 7:29pm | IP Logged

Thanks for the information, mitsos!

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