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morinkhuur Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4675 days ago 79 posts - 157 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Maghribi)
| Message 9 of 11 03 November 2012 at 11:49am | IP Logged |
Josquin wrote:
Medulin wrote:
Der Paul, die Tatjana are a norm in Southern German (from Frankfurt a. Main
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That's simply not true! Germans put articles in front of names in the North as well as in the South. You can even say:
"Die Frau Müller hat gerade angerufen" (Mrs Müller just called). I doubt though that this might be the reason why
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I disagree. Speakers in the north who use this construction are almost exclusively from southern Germany or they
learned it from their southern parents. Some people in the north may have also adopted it from friends or relatives
in the south but it is never found in Standard German or northern dialects and the vast majority of northern
Germans do not use it.
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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 10 of 11 03 November 2012 at 1:34pm | IP Logged |
Well, I'm from Northrhine-Westphalia and I do use it! Neither are my parents from the South nor do I have any other relatives there.
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| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5764 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 11 of 11 03 November 2012 at 4:54pm | IP Logged |
My dad's family from a villange near Kassel says de and 's when talking about people with their given names. My mum's family sometimes uses indefinite and possessive articles with given names (the latter to express 'I know that person but s/he is your friend'). I myself only use indefinite articles once in a while, as I use names only when I know the other person knows the one talked about; otherwise I mark or replace the name with a kinship or relationship term.
Edited by Bao on 03 November 2012 at 4:55pm
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