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| benbassist Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5426 days ago 51 posts - 52 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 17 of 22 14 January 2013 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | ||
It was after seeing your post that I picked the book up. I find the writing a bit tricky too. But I think the writing in newer manga may be clearer and easier to read. I would like to like to get hold of some myself. I have a question about this example from the book. Traveler: カツオブシですけど、いけませんか ？ Agent: い、いえ - no Does this mean that no it's unacceptable to have カツオブシ and is a problem? い、いえ been used to contradict the previous statement? Edited by benbassist on 15 January 2013 at 12:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| benbassist Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5426 days ago 51 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 18 of 22 18 January 2013 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Week 3
Kanji Remember the Kanji 1 - Currently Lesson 19 of 56 - Splitting large lesson's into smaller groups kanji each day Target Achieved. Vocabulary Assimil 67 Passive 18 Active - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. Adding Hard Sentences on Active Wave to Anki - Few Added So Far. Extra - Memrise JLPT N5 Vocab - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. < Just a quick review. Grammar Japanese the Manga Way Lesson 18 - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. I am going to Read Japanese the Manga Way first and then use Donna Toki to add examples of tricky grammar points to anki for review. Listening Assimil - See Vocabulary. JPOD101 - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. Other If someone could help me with the question in my last post it would be appreciated thank you. Edited by benbassist on 18 January 2013 at 2:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6619 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 19 of 22 18 January 2013 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | ||
Usually Japanese use はい and いいえ kind of like true and false, but occasionally they use them the same way as we do, so it can depend on the context. It's very hard to know what exactly he's talking about without the context, but the traveler is probably wants to have dried bonito and is saying something like "is it not available?" or "can't I get it?" The agent is saying no. I'm assuming he's using no in the meaning of "false" therefore contradicting the traveler's negative question. In other words, saying that it is available or whatever. However the comma makes it look like there is some hesitation there, so there is probably something more to it. Like perhaps that he can get it, but not easily or it's very expensive or something. My (very awkward) translation (done without context, so it can be very far off): Traveler: I'd like some dried bonito, but can't I get any? Agent: Welll, Yyyes... On a side note: That いけません (literally: doesn't go) is something we say in Norwegian too. "Det går ikke (an)," or in question form, "går det ikke (an)?" 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| benbassist Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5426 days ago 51 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 20 of 22 18 January 2013 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you,
The example was by itself in the book and was taken from a manga. I should have included the following in my original post (gives more context). When Michael is being tested as a baggage-sniffing cat. He sniffs out a crescent-shaped, driftwood type object, and the customs agent demands to know what it is. Traveler: カツオブシですけど、いけませんか ？ Agent: い、いえ Thats was interesting about the the Norwegian. I hope to learn Norwegian someday as well. Edited by benbassist on 18 January 2013 at 5:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| benbassist Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5426 days ago 51 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 21 of 22 25 January 2013 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Week 4
Kanji Remember the Kanji 1 - Currently Lesson 21 of 56 - Splitting large lesson's into smaller groups kanji each day Target Missed. Vocabulary Assimil 74 Passive 25 Active - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. Adding Hard Sentences on Active Wave to Anki - Few Added So Far. Extra - Memrise JLPT N5 Vocab - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. < Just a quick review. Grammar Japanese the Manga Way Lesson 19 - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Missed. I am going to Read Japanese the Manga Way first and then use Donna Toki to add examples of tricky grammar points to anki for review. Listening Assimil - See Vocabulary. JPOD101 - 1 Lesson Per Day Target Achieved. Other I have been unwell this week so I have not been able to meet all my targets, I have been still managed to keep up with reviews for Remembering the Kanji and Memrise. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| benbassist Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5426 days ago 51 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 22 of 22 15 February 2013 at 3:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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Just a quick update.
I am still working at memrise and anki reviews. I hope to get back on track next week with assimil and jpod101. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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