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Stefan
Diglot
Senior Member
Sweden
Joined 4329 days ago

22 posts - 29 votes
Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC1
Studies: German

 
 Message 9 of 12
28 January 2013 at 9:58am | IP Logged 
Week #3

As expected I had less time this week so I didn't get as much done. However, I managed to stay somewhat on track
which always is better than doing nothing. A lot of people recommend Deutsch - warum nicht so I decided to
give it a go together with FSI. Now I'm working with 3 different courses and there wont be any more.
  • 12 episodes of Pimsleur II
  • 1 episode of FSI German Basic
  • 21 episodes audio of Deutsch - Warum nicht?

I'm somewhat surprised with the speaking speed in FSI compared with Pimsleur. Must faster but it's not really a
problem due to the fact that you go through every sentence before having the listening comprehension. What I don't
like is the really annoying guy who almost screams. It takes time to go through but I'm fairly confident I'll remember
everything compared to Pimsleur and Deutsche Welle.

Deutsch - warum nicht contain a lot of English and I'd almost say it's to much while at the same time going in a very
slow pace. However, there are grammar lessons for almost every episode so I'm guessing you'll learn something.
The most annoying part is a character who always seem to scream with a loud high pitch voice. An elf.. Sure, I get
that they might want to reach out for the kids but giving everyone a headache? Come on..

Edited by Stefan on 28 January 2013 at 9:59am

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renaissancemedi
Bilingual Triglot
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Greece
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Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2
Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew

 
 Message 10 of 12
28 January 2013 at 11:09am | IP Logged 
Good work. I follow this thread with interest. I am still at the beginning with German, mainly because I got lost in all the material I've got, and it seems you went through the same. But you seem to be making a lot of progress.
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Stefan
Diglot
Senior Member
Sweden
Joined 4329 days ago

22 posts - 29 votes
Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC1
Studies: German

 
 Message 11 of 12
28 January 2013 at 9:38pm | IP Logged 
Thanks renaissancemedi, I'm glad to hear that :)
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Stefan
Diglot
Senior Member
Sweden
Joined 4329 days ago

22 posts - 29 votes
Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC1
Studies: German

 
 Message 12 of 12
03 February 2013 at 11:02pm | IP Logged 
Week #4

  • The course Mission Europe - Mission Berlin + exercises
  • 54 episodes of Audiotrainer from Deutsche
    Welle
  • 57 episodes audio of Deutsch - Warum nicht?
  • 32 exercises from
    Deutsch - Warum nicht?
  • Added vocabulary to Anki from Deutsch - Warum nicht?


I gave Deutsche Welle a shot this week and tried two new courses. Mission Europe gave me very little but it was
satisfying to be able to follow a story and understand everything even though I'm well
aware that it uses very little German. I wasn't a big fan of Audiotrainer since you only hear the new vocabulary once
- I probably forgot everything the same second I heard it. However, I did enjoy
Deutsch - Warum nicht? and will continue to go through it the coming week. The only annoying thing is 2-3 minutes
of really loud classic music in every episode for no obvious reason. That's a total
of 5 hours in the course! 5 hours you could've spent on learning the language.

I haven't mentioned it but I actually sent FSI an mail on 21/1 2013 asking about their current course LGM100
(German Basic course) to figure out which CERF level you're supposed to reach after
finishing the course. Unfortunately I haven't heard from them yet but maybe that's a good thing since I'm not getting
a standard message saying "we don't know". Only time will tell...

Speaking of CERF.. I believe I've spent roughly 80 hours so far and it feels like I've "mastered" A1. I'm thinking about
setting a target for the summer (B1 or B2) but I'm not sure how optimistic I
should be. There's 118 days left until 1 of june and I wouldn't even reach B1 if I study one hour every day. It will take
roughly 3.5 hours every day to reach B2 based on the hours below if I want to
reach it in the beginning of june. Probably longer since I don't focus 100 percent while studying.

A1 - 75 hours
A2.1 - 150 hours
A2.2 - 225 hours
B1.1 - 300 hours
B1.2 - 400 hours
B2 - 500-600 hours
C1 - 700-800 hours
C2 - 1,000-1,200 hours

In the beginning I got the urge to learn as many languages as possible including Esperanto and Mandarin but
realized that I'll never use them. I've decided that it's better to master a few languages
that I actually will be using than it's to know the basics in a bunch I'll never be using.

Lastly I'll recommend one of Udo Lindenbergs songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_uflOk1CIQ

Edit: Tried to make it more readable but the forum software breaks everything...

Edited by Stefan on 03 February 2013 at 11:05pm



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