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| AML Senior Member United States Joined 6824 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes  2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 1 of 4 27 January 2013 at 11:19am | IP Logged | ||
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I made two posts about my experiments in Modern Hebrew in another section of this forum, but I've now decided that it makes more sense to post future experiments in my own Language Log.
The first post/experiment was Assimil Hebrew in 2 weeks. The second post/experiment was Intensive reading + GoldList; Hebrew experiment. The entire point of these "experiments" is trying to figure out what works for me. There is a wealth of information out there about how to learn languages, but I find that I just flounder around if I don't focus on accomplishing a specific task in a specific amount of time Thus I create little experiments for myself, which are supposed to take between 2-4 weeks. I keep notes everyday and then post the results. I'm currently working on another one now and should finish some time in February. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4867 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 2 of 4 27 January 2013 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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Sounds interesting. I noticed that language learning works best for me when I change my methods frequently, maybe it's the same n your case. What's your current experiment?
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| AML Senior Member United States Joined 6824 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 3 of 4 27 January 2013 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | ||
Modified Listening-Reading (L-R). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| AML Senior Member United States Joined 6824 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 4 of 4 07 February 2013 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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Listening-Reading: Hebrew experiment
Or - completely internalize one book chapter through L-R + SRS *** GOAL = listen, read, and speak, all with complete fluency and understanding, a 200-sentence chapter from a book *** I recently learned about Listening-Reading (L-R), and it seems like a very worthwhile method that I should try - especially since I really need to improve my listening comprehension and speaking abilities. To be honest, at around A2/B1 level, I need to improve EVERY aspect of my Hebrew. That said, I feel confident enough in my bad Hebrew that L-R should be useful for me. I get the impression that L-R is better for someone at my level as opposed to a raw beginner. Even though many of you know the basics of L-R, I will summarize them here as I understand them: 1.) Read a long text in L1. Know the story well. One time. 2.) Read the text in L2 while listening to L2. One time. 3.) Read the text in L1 while listening to L2. Multiple times - until you naturally understand the entire story in L2. 4.) Begin speaking only here: listen to L2 and repeat. Multiple times - until you can speak it fluently. 5.) Translate from L1 to L2, both in writing and speaking. I will not perform the above Step 5, as it doesn't interest me for this particular experiment. I have Winnie-the-Pooh in English, Hebrew, and 2.4 hours of Hebrew audio covering the whole book. My goal is to completely "digest/internalize" one entire chapter (about 16 minutes) in one month or less. I truly have no idea what to expect in terms of results, as I have never done L-R before. My end goal, then, is to be able to read the book aloud, with full understanding, as fast as the narrator on the mp3 (which is pretty fast). She reads the chapter in just under 16 minutes, so if I can read it aloud with good pronunciation and understanding in only 16-18 minutes, then I will be very happy. My general steps are a modified version of Listening-Reading (L-R): 1.) Read the story in English to understand it. 2.) Listen to L2 while reading in L2. Do this many times. 3.) Listen to L2 while reading in L1. Do this many times. 4.) Read story in L2 intensively and input every unknown phrase into Anki (Front: Hebrew, Back: English and Transliteration). Review Anki cards daily. 5.) Read the Hebrew story aloud many times until I can match the speed of the native speaker in the recording. Here is exactly what I did and how much time it took: Day 1 (Time = 2.0 h): Read all of Winnie-the-pooh in English to become familiar with the stories. Day 2 (Time = 1.5 h): Chapter 1: (a) Listen L2 + Read L2; (b) Listen L2 + Read L1; (c) Listen L2 four times Day 3 (Time = 3.0 h): Read first half of Chapter 1 intensively and make Anki entries of all unknown phrases (73 Anki cards) Day 4 (Time = 3.0 h): Read second half of Chapter 1 intensively and make Anki entries of all unknown phrases (66 Anki cards, for a grand total of 139 Anki cards) Day 5 (Time = 2.0 h): (a) Review Anki (30 min); (b) Listen L2 + Read L2; (c) Listen L2 + Read L1; (d) Review Anki (30 min); (e) Listen L2 + Read L2; (f) Listen L2 + Read L1 Day 6 (Time = 1.5 h): (a) Review Anki (30 min); (b) Listen L2; (c) Review Anki (30 min); (d) Listen L2 + Read L1 Day 7 (Time = 1.5 h): (a) Review Anki (30 min); (b) Listen L2 + Read L1; (c) Listen L2 + Read L2; (d) Listen to difficult sentences over and over using Audacity Day 8 (Time = 0.8 h): (a) Review Anki (15 min); (b) Listen L2 + Read L2; (c) Listen L2 + Read L2 Day 9 (Time = 0.8 h): (a) Review Anki (15 min); (b) Listen L2 + Read L2; (c) Listen L2 Day 10 (Time = 0.7 h): (a) Review Anki (10 min); (b) Listen L2 + Read L1; (C) Listen L2 + Read L2 (move mouth) Day 11 (Time = 1.0 h): (a) Review Anki (10 min); (b) Read aloud (24.5 min); (c) Read aloud (24.0 min); Day 12 (Time = 0.7 h): (a) Review Anki (10 min); (b) Read aloud (22.75 min); (c) Read silently Day 13 (Time = 1.4 h): (a) Review Anki (10 min); (b) Read aloud (21.5 min); (c) Listen L2; (d) Read aloud (18.5 min); (e) Read aloud (18.75 min) Day 14 (Time = 1.0 h): (a) Review Anki (6 min); (b) Read aloud (17.9 min); (c) Listen L2; (d) Read aloud (17.25 min) The results were pretty good. In the end, I was able to improve my reading-aloud skills and comprehension, as well as improve my listen ability. I can understand >95% of this story reading or listening to it - a feat I am THRILLED with. In hindsight, I should have begun reading the story aloud earlier. I noticed a definite improvement with my speaking as I read more and more and tried to increase my speed - my mouth because accustomed to the movements involved for Hebrew. This was a very good exercise. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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