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| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5124 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 1 of 8 09 January 2011 at 12:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've made up some languages with odd (but always regular) grammar, using English vocabulary as fodder for testing different grammatical functions. It's really fun, especially if you can make it sound and look like a totally different language from your base language (English in my case). Have any of you done this? If you have, please do share the features of your made up language :D I can tell you about mine if you like as well. Edited by CheeseInsider on 09 January 2011 at 12:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BartoG Diglot Senior Member United States confession Joined 5449 days ago 292 posts - 818 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Uzbek | Message 2 of 8 09 January 2011 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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I created a more regularized verb system for Uzbek and wrote some texts in it years ago. It was good practice, and a good way to break free from always looking at the answer key in the grammar I was studying with at the time. However, that was a matter of making the language less interesting and exotic, not more.
I've never learned it, but the most interesting conlang, to me, is Labarion Gaulish, an attempt by some pretty serious students of the Celtic languages to go beyond what could be documented for Gaulish and fill in the pieces to make a working language that would be similar to what was actually spoken by the Gauls. I've always been curious about whether this sort of re-conlanging - making a conlang by expanding on a reconstruction - could prove to have a practical application: When new texts came to light, would you get more useful or interesting possible readings if the people looking at them didn't just know the evidence, but also spoke a related language, albeit a made up one - for which their understanding and usage had become unconscious? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5124 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 3 of 8 09 January 2011 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | ||
That's very interesting, though I don't know anything about Uzbek grammar. Could you perhaps give some examples of sentences in Uzbek and again in your altered form of Uzbek? That would be great! WOW, that sounds really cool. I'm going to do a search on google for that. Do you think there would be any online manuals for it? And that would be a great experiment, I wonder how they actually "re-constructed" (don't know if that's the proper term) it. –––––––––Edit––––––––– I checked out Labarion Gaulish and found a website with word documents detailing it's vocabulary and grammar. And one more word document providing exercises for practicing. I'm sure you've already seen it but for others who haven't here is the link. Edited by CheeseInsider on 09 January 2011 at 6:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5671 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 4 of 8 09 January 2011 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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This conversation reminded me of The Language
Construction Kit which I think is useful reading even for people with no interest in creating new language. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5124 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 5 of 8 09 January 2011 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | ||
Ahh yes I came across that a couple of years ago but never thoroughly read it. Thanks! I'm going to check it out again! :D 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6584 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 6 of 8 13 January 2011 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've been considering creating a conlang, though not really for learning purposes. Partly for curiosity and partly to create a language that is genuinely mine. It would represent my moral and philosophical thought much in the same way that Toki Pona reflects that of its creator.
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| vvaamim Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4956 days ago 11 posts - 12 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Turkish | Message 7 of 8 15 July 2011 at 5:06am | IP Logged | ||
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I actually do this for every language I learn and it helps me A LOT. Like, for Hebrew, I created language based on
triconsonantal roots that change in meaning (causative, passive, adj, verb, inverse, etc) depending on the vowels added. It really helped to learn and understand the binyanim. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arthaey Groupie United States arthaey.com Joined 5048 days ago 97 posts - 155 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 8 15 July 2011 at 5:53am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm a conlanger myself, and I have definitely found that I learn a lot about "weird" or otherwise difficult language
concepts by adding them to a conlang. Besides, it's fun in and of itself, if you're interested in language. :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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