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| Po-ru Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5415 days ago 173 posts - 235 votes  Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish, Norwegian, Mandarin, French | Message 1 of 34 19 July 2011 at 6:48am | IP Logged | ||
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Hey everyone. I stumbled across this site a while ago and have been reading on it a
bit lately. The author says to pretty much listen to your language all the time. He quotes "Silence has left the building. Every moment of your life needs to be soaked in the sweet water of Japanese listening." I am wondering what you guys think about this ideology. For one I think it's really good and I am certainly going to be listening to my languages much more often. The author aims have having the reader listen to Japanese(or any other language) 24 hours a day. Now I am assuming this isn't all actively, such as using LingQ to look up words or using a dictionary to find words you do not know. Some of this has to be passively because he also says "just be sure to not pick Lord of the Rings for your sleepytime listening..." So pretty much he's aiming at getting you to listen to your language all the time, which is pretty much the closest thing to immersion outside of the country. I think it's great and am certainly going to be trying to with the languages I am studying with. I usually listen to them while driving or something like that but never just while I am browsing the internet or stuff. I am going to up my listening hours as well. What do you guys think of this method? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5701 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 2 of 34 19 July 2011 at 7:51am | IP Logged | ||
Only it isn't. Immersion means interaction. There's been much said about AJATT here (google.) I don't like his approach to kanji. I think learning any isolated part of a language upfront is a big waste of your time and energy, because you have to re-learn most of it in a real context again. The better my Japanese gets, the more troublesome I find passive listening, because I can't listen to one language and actively use another language. It just doesn't work. I can't sleep with audio playing either. So I listen to music when I want to concentrate on something else, and to audiobooks/podcasts etc when I don't. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5243 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish | Message 3 of 34 19 July 2011 at 9:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Both passive listening to the radio for 16 hours a day and intensive listening textbooky materials worked for me. Both have their drawbacks, so I do both so that they'd complement each other.
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 4 of 34 19 July 2011 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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Listening lots is good, but seriously, not all the time. As Bao says, kills your concentration.
Also, the advice on the website has changed numerous times... but the guy only learned Japanese once.... 9 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Po-ru Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5415 days ago 173 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish, Norwegian, Mandarin, French | Message 5 of 34 19 July 2011 at 10:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well I am not saying this is the best way to learn a language thoroughly from no
knowledge to advanced, but I am suggesting this method is great to supplementing whatever else. Obviously to listen well you need at least a vocabulary of about 200 - 500 words to get the bare minimum out of any listening and then comes understanding of grammatical patterns. This method is very similar to LINGQs method, except LINGQ has more thorough material with transcripts though your not able to listen to whatever you want(where as if you want to watch a movie in Japanese about whales you can do that though movies or TV). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| nakrian keegiat Diglot Groupie Thailand Joined 4842 days ago 70 posts - 172 votes Speaks: English*, Thai Studies: Russian | Message 6 of 34 20 July 2011 at 4:25am | IP Logged | ||
I have heard this before but don't know the details. I just recently found his site so I'm only familiar with his current method. Can you please explain some of his previous advice? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 7 of 34 20 July 2011 at 10:13am | IP Logged | ||
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I can't recall much detail, but the big obvious one is that he's now offering a programmed course... when he's been advising against courses forever. "All classes are rubbish, but take classes from me" or something along those lines...
And it looks like he's getting a fair bit of cash now. It looks like he's taken on 58 students since April, and at anything from $1 a day to $2.70 a day. That's an annual take that's definitely over 20K, supplemented with the website "plus" subscription and the Amazon affiliate links. He's working for his money, fair enough, but the whole idea runs contrary to everything he professes in his blog. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dbag Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4957 days ago 605 posts - 1046 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 34 20 July 2011 at 6:09pm | IP Logged | ||
From the little I understand of this "method" , then indeed it does run contary to everything he says. I find stuff like that irritating. I wish there was a streamlined version of that site that cut straight to the chase. I am interested in what he has to say, but I cant read that site for more than a few minutes without becoming both annoyed, and confused. I would imagine that there is much of value to be found in that site, but would be very wary of blindy following everything in it. I wonder if anyone has actually had a succsessful outcome after following this intense listening method? Or whether anyone has tried it and found it to be a waste of time? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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