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All Japanese All the Time Method Opinion? | ||
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| jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4969 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 9 of 34 20 July 2011 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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I can't listen to my native language all the time. I just want some silence in my life, too. So I don't think listening all the time to Japanese would be the best fit for my personality. It's very important, yes, but sometimes the brain needs rest so there is no fatigue!
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6610 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 10 of 34 20 July 2011 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
This is an ad hominem attack and straw man fallacy. It is difficult for me to understand the tendency in this forum to look down on people. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6610 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 11 of 34 20 July 2011 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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All Japanese All the Time is a metaphor.
The key is ALMOST all Japanese ALMOST all the time. The concept of CRITICAL frequency is very important here and the boiling water metaphor as well. "Din in the head" hypotesis? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6800 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 12 of 34 20 July 2011 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
My honest thoughts are that the AJATT method is far too harsh. I learn languages because I like it, and like all hobbies I don't want to spend every waking second engaged in it. I prefer to work at my own pace, and not bombard my poor mind with language material. Slow and steady wins the race 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6485 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 13 of 34 21 July 2011 at 4:21am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
The site started out as a rant against textbooks, grammars, classes, schools, teachers etc. But the main focus was on the "method" which at that time was 1) learn kanji using RTK1, and learn the kana 2) listen/watch/read/speak Japanese in order to 3) mine sentences (50/day) so that you can use an SRS (3 hrs/day) to review them from kanji to kana only. Last time I visited it was much more focused on 2). There seem to be a lot of followers that aren't even aware of 3) now, which is probably for the better. A lot of people do 3) beyond the extent that he recommends (which is too far to begin with imo), don't seem understand balance in a language plan, and don't seem to want to transition to the real world.
Learning it up front might not be a good choice, depending on one's language plan. But unless I misunderstand you, I disagree with your philosophy when it comes to kanji. Everyone will have to learn kanji in context, and I doubt if anyone will argue that point. But I believe most westerners are doomed to learn them out of context too. The method he uses, RTK, is just an organized way of doing all of the out of context stuff at once.
I can't agree with this enough. Multi-tasking is often not efficient and not pleasant. Turn the TV off when you go to sleep!
Is there a LingQ method now? It used to be just nicely organized reading and listening with vocabulary whistles and bells. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Po-ru Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5415 days ago 173 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish, Norwegian, Mandarin, French | Message 14 of 34 21 July 2011 at 8:34am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Well LINGQ really isn't a "method" but Steve Kaufmann stresses listening to material as
opposed to working through a grammar book. I love LINGQ but I absolutely need more than it to get to where I want to be in a language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 15 of 34 21 July 2011 at 9:49am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
His website gives certain advice, then sells a product that runs counter to that advice. It is not an ad hominem attack to say that his either his advice or his product is wrong. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6610 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 16 of 34 21 July 2011 at 11:47am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
He gives a HUGE amount of free and good advice. It is useful if you learn Japanese or any other language. He explains that you don't need his product to learn any language. Where does he goes against his own advice? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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