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Travis.H Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4455 days ago 59 posts - 91 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, Sign Language Studies: French
| Message 1 of 12 01 October 2012 at 9:21am | IP Logged |
Dear HTLAL readers,
This is my first post on this forum even though I've been reading for awhile. I'm
American and I've taught myself Japanese to an advanced level, although to a native I
would never call myself fluent. I live and work in Japanese all day, my friends are
Japanese and I essentially conduct myself entirely in the language. I've enjoyed this
life for the past few years but feel ready for a change.
I have a great aunt who lives in Norway. I actually don't know my aunt very well but I
expressed interest in learning Norwegian and she told me that I would be more than
welcome to stay with her for an extended period of time. My grandmother told me
recently that she asked when I was coming to Norway last time she visited America.
Pondering this, I've been thinking about learning Norwegian on my own, going to Norway
and possibly perusing a degree in Applied Linguistics at a university in Norway.
I was able to teach myself Japanese easily through a plethora of online resources,
manga and books and of course talking to people. However,during a brief search for
Norwegian resources I found a very select few resources. I was hoping that Assimil
would be of help, but sadly they don't have an English base and I don't speak French or
German.
My two questions are:
1.) Anyone who has learned Norwegian or speaks Norwegian, what advice would you give to
someone learning the language?
2.) Are there any good links or resources for listening to Norwegian (podcasts etc).
Thank you very much in advance,
-Travis
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| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6581 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 2 of 12 01 October 2012 at 10:22am | IP Logged |
Well, start out by checking out this thread.
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| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4520 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic
| Message 3 of 12 01 October 2012 at 1:40pm | IP Logged |
for listening resources: http://www.nrk.no
there you can find online radio and clips from Norwegian TV
http://www.klartale.no
news with limited vocabulary + podcasts (news read in very clear and relatively slow Norwegian)
some general advice:
* concentrate on vocabulary, not grammar
* learn words actively (ie. translate from L1 to L2, not the other way round); Norwegian words are similar enough to English ones (at least the most frequently used 2000-3000 or so) so that passive learning shouldn't be necessary
* go to Norway early (after you have learned 2000-2500 vocabulary items), don't waste time with advanced studies outside of Norway
If you want to study in Norway, it might be best to attend the "trinn 3" Norwegian language course at a Norwegian university (eg. International Summer School Oslo). It shouldn't be too hard to meet the entrance requirements for this course after a year of self-study.
Edited by daegga on 02 October 2012 at 3:19pm
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| Travis.H Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4455 days ago 59 posts - 91 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, Sign Language Studies: French
| Message 4 of 12 05 October 2012 at 1:52am | IP Logged |
Thank you very much for your responses. Daegga, I really appreciated your advice on what
to study and about studying in Norway. I'll be sure to do some more research on "trinn
3".
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| Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5305 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 5 of 12 06 October 2012 at 10:12am | IP Logged |
I am Norwegian, and Norway abund in foreigners that have a large Norwegian vocabolary, but are completely ignorant of flectional forms, syntax and pronunciation.
I am actually astounished how ignorant even highly educated persons tend to be of these particularities.
You should as soon as possible learn the proper pronunciation, especially vowel quality, tunes and vowel length.
You should as soon as possible also learn the flectional forms and the basic rules of syntax.
Then you have a framework for practical learning and use of the vocabolary.
You can also use Norwegian in Sweden and Denmark, since Norwegian, Swedish and Danish are mere dialects of the same language.
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4667 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 6 of 12 12 October 2012 at 4:11am | IP Logged |
I found Norwegian pronunciation very hard and it made me stop learning the language.
I couldn't repeat not even the most basic sentences with the native-like intonation and tones/pitch. You should focus on pronunciation right from the start, and this is difficult to do if there is no Norwegians around. TV and songs cannot replace the eye-to-eye contact with native speakers. For example, in order to pronounce Norwegian Y in the right way, you have to focus on Norwegians' lips.
Edited by Medulin on 12 October 2012 at 4:14am
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| Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5305 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 7 of 12 12 October 2012 at 5:18am | IP Logged |
Yes, but the y-sound is very easy to explain.
Start with an i-sound as in "sit". Then markedly round your lips and also your tongue a little.
Roundedness and not is the only difference between i and y.
The Norwegian u-sound is however more difficult to define. It is rounded. The tongue is in a nearly mid position, but a little rised towards the palate and also slightly pushed foreward.
The "ou" in English "you" comes near to it.
The u must be contrasted to the usual pronunciation of o, which is a back, very narrow, rounded sound. The oo in English "roof" may resamble.
Edited by Aquila123 on 12 October 2012 at 5:22am
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 8 of 12 12 October 2012 at 12:50pm | IP Logged |
How would you compare them to the Finnish u and y?
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