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Cainntear
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 Message 9 of 18
14 July 2010 at 12:32pm | IP Logged 
Doitsujin wrote:
The online version will only align 50 strings, which makes it pretty much useless and even the full product can only be bought as a volume and/or time limited license.
For this reason alone I'd never buy it even if it were the greatest Aligner there is.
Whoever came up with this harebrained licensing scheme should be fired.

Why?

They're selling a very valuable time-saving service to professionals whose time is already very valuable. So they lose out on sales to amateurs -- so what? The volume of sales is irrelevant compared to revenues, and I'm sure they're getting their money's worth out of it.

I can't afford Photoshop either, because it's aimed at pros. Thankfully the tools aimed at amateurs are powerful enough for my needs. In the end, everybody gets the tools they need, and the software authors get the recompense they have earned.
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 Message 10 of 18
14 July 2010 at 2:10pm | IP Logged 
now they have a special offer - a perpetual license for 1500 rubles (~$50) only with no restrictions on functionality (10 languages, 90 translation directions).

you can check it here (in russian)

http://www.abbyy.ru/aligner/buy
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 Message 11 of 18
27 June 2011 at 12:20pm | IP Logged 
Doitsujin wrote:
taqseem wrote:
could you name them please?

Here you go:

1.Aligner (Open Source)
- Powerful command line tool
- Automatic alignment (quality can be checked via reliability scores)
- Alignment quality can be improved by adding a bilingual text dictionary.
- Creates tab-delimited and/or .tmx files

2. bitext2tmx (Open Source)
- Very simple multilingual GUI
- Manual aligment necessary
- Does not use advanced linguistic matching
- Default segmentation settings need to be customized for best results
- Creates only .tmx files, which need to be converted

3. Wordfast Plus Tools (commercial but free)
- Free macro package for MS Word (part of the Wordfast CAT tool)
- Manual Alignment necessary
- Creates TMs in Wordfast format which need to be converted to .txt files

In case you're wondering how to convert the Wordfast or .tmx file to a plain text file, there's another Freeware tool called
Apsic XBench that does just that.


I know this is an old post, but I just bumped into it by accident.

I'm the author of LF Aligner (the first tool on your list), so I thought I'd give you some info.
LF Aligner uses Hunalign internally for autoalignment, adding a more convenient interface and a bunch of extra features
including support for html, doc, docx, rtf, pdf and other input formats, and xls and tmx output (on top of txt of course).

LF aligner can also do multilingual alignments, i.e. if you have a text in 5 languages, you can autoalign all 5 in one go and
get a 5-column all-in-sync xls file.


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 Message 12 of 18
28 June 2011 at 5:02pm | IP Logged 
andras_farkas, thanks for authoring what looks to be a very useful tool. However, I have not been able to get it to
work. Has anyone successfully run LF Aligner, especially on a mac? (though I have also tried to get it to work on a PC
as well)

I've gone through the readme several times, and still cannot get any of the input text on the output xls and txt
files.They simply show up blank, other than the instructions on the output Excel/xls file. I am using docx files as
input language files. I've installed both AbiWord, and fink/Antiword per the instructions, but still nothing. If anyone
can shed any light on this, I'd be very grateful.
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Doitsujin
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 Message 13 of 18
28 June 2011 at 5:38pm | IP Logged 
AFAIK, the tool works internally with UTF-8 files and creates a tab-delimited text file as the raw output. Any other format will most likely need to be converted and this additional step might cause problems.

Try saving your files as UTF-8 text files and then try again to align them. BTW, you get better alignment results if you use a text dictionary with entries delimited with an at sign (@). For example, an English/German alignment dictionary would have the following format:

Haus @ house
Maus @ mouse

(The entries need to be in reverse order.)
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Faraday
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 Message 14 of 18
28 June 2011 at 5:48pm | IP Logged 
Hmm, I tried it with UTF-8 text files as you described, and am still getting blank files.
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Doitsujin
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 Message 15 of 18
28 June 2011 at 6:03pm | IP Logged 
You may want to PM Andras Farkas, because there might be a bug in the software.
If you know how to use command line tools, you could do the following:

1. Segment both source files using aligner/scripts/sentence_splitter/split-sentences.perl
2. Run aligner/scripts/hunalign/hunalign_mac using the two files that you created in step #1 as input parameters

(The tool is just a sophisticated wrapper script.)
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Faraday
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 Message 16 of 18
28 June 2011 at 6:20pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for your help, Doitsujin. Unfortunately, I know very little about computers and command lines and such. I'll
keep trying.


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