leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6485 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 17 of 45 27 May 2011 at 3:06am | IP Logged |
Thuan wrote:
Siomotteikiru suggested people to L-R a book for three to four times. Most users think it excessive
to read a book more than once. |
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The first thing that sprung into my mind while reading this thread was LR. The forum sure is a different place now
than it was then; I wonder if LR would have been at all appealing to us if it had been posted today instead of back
then?
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6485 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 18 of 45 27 May 2011 at 3:19am | IP Logged |
pon00050 wrote:
*Most polyglot on internet seem to concur with the idea that listening is the most
important part of language learning. |
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Please name one. (since you used "*", I assume this is from you, rather than the book)
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pon00050 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4868 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English Studies: Spanish, Korean*
| Message 19 of 45 27 May 2011 at 3:41am | IP Logged |
Here is more explanation.on why one should take a day off
according to the book.
According to the medical research that the author read
in Germany, there is a special process when learning
a language. ( *so never mind my second post which
stated it was for "knowledge". I wrote that when I didn't
have the book with me)
First of all, the brain stacks up all the info on the
new language. Then it starts analyzing and organizing.
Finally when the brain picks up the pattern of the
language, it makes the room for the foreign language.
However, if one does not take a day off, then the brain
will be keep stacking up without a chance to organize
the new information. The author used the analogy of organizing
after a moving day.
The auth
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pon00050 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4868 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English Studies: Spanish, Korean*
| Message 20 of 45 27 May 2011 at 3:49am | IP Logged |
The author stated German is like a mother language to him.
He also stated that he got the highest level on TOEIC.
Which polyglots say listening is important?
Correct me if I am wrong
but I believe following individuals hold
such opinion
Steve Kauffman and Laoshu
And I believe the previous topic on this section
of the forum talks about the importance of listening,
especially in the beginning.
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Thuan Triglot Senior Member GermanyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6865 days ago 133 posts - 156 votes Speaks: Vietnamese, German*, English Studies: French, Japanese, Romanian, Swedish, Mandarin
| Message 21 of 45 27 May 2011 at 12:23pm | IP Logged |
Steve Kaufmann does indeed spend a lot of time listening and reading to short texts in order to internalize a language; Moses on the other hand seems to be more interested in mastering the basic grammar patterns (correct me if I'm wrong).
Do you have any videos where we can hear him talk? I used to teach English in Japan; a high TOEIC score doesn't necessarily correlate to high conversational skills.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6638 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 22 of 45 27 May 2011 at 2:54pm | IP Logged |
leosmith wrote:
I wonder if LR would have been at all appealing to us if it had been posted today instead of back then? |
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Siomotteikiru's method would need a lot of patience, but it didn't ask you to transcribe an unknown language without even specifying how to do it.
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clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5113 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi
| Message 23 of 45 27 May 2011 at 3:02pm | IP Logged |
My post about religion was a half joke.
I think this method may not work if you don'tk now the spelling system, or even foreign writting system.
When I was young I heard "rhythm is a dancer" as "reza meza densa".
I think you have to learn grammar, and listen a lot, but well.. I have not tried the method...
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pon00050 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4868 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English Studies: Spanish, Korean*
| Message 24 of 45 27 May 2011 at 4:56pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
leosmith wrote:
I wonder if LR would have been at all appealing to us if it had been
posted today instead of back then? |
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Siomotteikiru's method would need a lot of patience, but it didn't ask you to transcribe an unknown
language without even specifying how to do it. |
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I added more information on this method
and I wrote that this book's title is
영어 공부 절대 하지마라(Never Study English).
It was intended or Korean people, most of whom
do know the basic sound system and alphabets
used in English. I am sorry I failed on my brief translation
of what was tried to cover in 2 books in total.
Nevertheless, I believe that I acknowledged the problem of
this method when learning languages that has different/more sounds or/and writing system
in the second post. It was and still is my intention to find out
what can be done to fix this flaw since I am planning to learn
Japanese. Any help will be appreciated.
Edited by pon00050 on 27 May 2011 at 5:04pm
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