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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4944 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes  Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 9 of 28 08 June 2011 at 10:15am | IP Logged | |||||
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I believe that teaching your friend things she was experiencing at the moment was the most important part here. Not that walking and being with a friend wouldn't help. We don't learn and remember by reading and listening only, we have other senses and our brain as well sorts things out by their usefulness. Therefore living through the situation is usually the most effective method. It works not only with the languages. I'm currently studying for my anatomy exam and I can see all the time that I have much less trouble remembering details about those pieces of body which I or my family have had hurt or those I have seen and worked with during dissections.
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 10 of 28 08 June 2011 at 11:12am | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, as others have said, he did use repetition techniques. He said not to do any homework -- "even mental homework". The reason for this is simple: Thomas introduced language very gradually and it is easy to overgeneralise if you try to say something that you haven't learned to say yet, but don't know you haven't learned. For example, in the Spanish course he starts using "es" without talking about ser and estar. He is careful only to work on sentences that have a clear "ser" concept and meaning, but the student isn't yet in a position to do so independently. He also teaches the "tu" form of verbs as the 3rd person singular plus s and the 3rd person plural as singular+n which holds true until you hit the preterite, and there's an immediate temptation to apply the +s/+n rule as soon as you've learnt the 3s form. So it's not that he's against repetition, but that he's avoiding the oppotunities to make mistakes. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| keebo Newbie United States Joined 4853 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean | Message 11 of 28 10 June 2011 at 9:50am | IP Logged | |||||
Agreed! My most vivid memories and success in learning tend to be wrapped in my emotions, connecting it with an interest or music(sometimes while moving to it's beat/ebb...flow). Dry memorization in any study rarely worked for me. School was hell until I learned to be the chief participant in how I learned.(Note:I'm a newbie at multiple languages. This post refers to what worked for me when I studied anything) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 12 of 28 10 June 2011 at 11:05am | IP Logged | |||||
This is only going to help with very specific vocabulary, though. Most language is far too general to associate closely with particular personal experiences. In fact, associating it with personal experiences has the potential to alter your understanding of the language feature in question, corrupting its meaning. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6164 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 13 of 28 10 June 2011 at 2:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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There is no more powerful tool for recall than making mistakes with ( and being corrected by) native speakers. Of
course, the only way this is going to happen is if you get out there and speak the language! I can still remember being in Mexico and having this guy give me the strangest look because I told him I was so "pregnant". ( the Spanish word is "embarazada" I meant to tell him I was embarrassed ) I will never forget the Turkish word for key is "anahtar" because I gestured incorrectly at least a half-dozen words before finally hitting the correct one with an innkeeper in Turkey. I have several more examples, but those stick out in my mind! Edited by liddytime on 10 June 2011 at 3:45pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kappa Groupie Japan Joined 5455 days ago 99 posts - 172 votes | Message 14 of 28 10 June 2011 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
(Sorry I had to. But I learnt something. I never knew it was of the Greek origin. Feel free to delete this.) Edited by Kappa on 10 June 2011 at 2:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5316 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 15 of 28 10 June 2011 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
After all, other than the last few centuries (or millenia in some cases), this is how humans have been learning other languages since language has existed. Edited by Arekkusu on 10 June 2011 at 4:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4944 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 16 of 28 10 June 2011 at 3:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Caintear, I fully agree that there are many parts of any language which are much harder or nearly impossible to make such connection to. I never said everything can be learned this way or that it should be the only or major technique of learning, it's just one of the things which you can combine with anything else and which can be really helpful. It won't provide you with complete knowledge of the language but it can give you useful solid points to incomporate in your web of thoughts and to take off from. And I'd say the risk of remembering wrong understanding is just as high as with other methods. That's one of the reasons why it's necessary to use various materials with lots of native use of the language.
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