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| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6854 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 9 of 23 03 July 2011 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Nice one! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| zuneybunny Diglot Newbie United States turkishtrip.wordpres Joined 4872 days ago 32 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English, Mandarin* Studies: Spanish, Turkish | Message 10 of 23 04 July 2011 at 5:25am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I'm actually an English speaker. Yes, I did put down Mandarin as first native language (born in China), but I live in the US and mainly speak English :)
You would need 6105! Obviously, the higher % you want, the words increase exponentially. For example you only need 2227 words for 70% comprehension, which is 1/3 of what you need for 85%! But like some replied, this isn't really a percentage of comprehension. It's just nice to know :D 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6485 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 11 of 23 04 July 2011 at 7:47am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I think it's better to turn all of these into swim-related: Knowing the first 38% or so is like going to do the 100 meter crawl, but without your torso, head, or left arm. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| jean-luc Senior Member France Joined 4895 days ago 100 posts - 150 votes Speaks: French* Studies: German | Message 12 of 23 04 July 2011 at 10:03am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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As a side note, are you willing to share your python script ? I would be interested to have a look on some texts I have.
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| zuneybunny Diglot Newbie United States turkishtrip.wordpres Joined 4872 days ago 32 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English, Mandarin* Studies: Spanish, Turkish | Message 13 of 23 04 July 2011 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Of course :) http://codepad.org/9T0Ew6Cd Replace "harrypotter.txt" with whatever your input text file is. It'll create a file named "freqlist.txt" after you run it. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6307 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English* | Message 14 of 23 04 July 2011 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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The content words which make up most of the meaning are the rarer words. Knowing 80% of
the words on the page does not mean understanding 80% of the text. This is something all language learners will learn. I know I got a rude awakening at how much more I had to learn when I first opened a French novel. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| jean-luc Senior Member France Joined 4895 days ago 100 posts - 150 votes Speaks: French* Studies: German | Message 15 of 23 04 July 2011 at 10:25pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Thanks a lot, it works really well ! I just had to add «» in the regexp (and # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- in the header) for using it on my German text. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5946 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 16 of 23 05 July 2011 at 8:38am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Fair enough, sorry. (But the same still holds true for Turkish for English speakers anyway....)
That is extremely useful. Many, many thanks. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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