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| SaYwHt2 Triglot Newbie Belgium Joined 5600 days ago 9 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English, German, French Studies: Italian, Russian, Dutch, Swedish, Croatian, Slovenian | Message 1 of 15 26 September 2011 at 9:12am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello everyone,
I am currently in Rome and was wondering if anyone here knew of an Italian programme with lots of drills to achieve basic fluency. I have successfully used Assimil Italian and will shortly start their advanced Italian course, but of course my comprehension of the language is consequently well ahead of my ability to actively speak. I am aware that the FSI course is rubbish. Is there anything along the lines of "Modern Russian" (Clayton Lawson) or "Japanese - The Spoken Language" (E Jordan) for the Italian language? I mention that I am in Rome in case there is an Italian programme that can only be found in Italy! Apologies if this info is floating around the forum somewhere - I tried a search first! Many Thanks Edited by SaYwHt2 on 26 September 2011 at 9:15am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SaYwHt2 Triglot Newbie Belgium Joined 5600 days ago 9 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English, German, French Studies: Italian, Russian, Dutch, Swedish, Croatian, Slovenian | Message 2 of 15 09 November 2011 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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Any takers?
I've learnt more with Russian "Modern Russian" in the past three months of intensive study than I have Italian with 2 years study and 3 months full time language courses in Italy. I also originally learnt French and German with the FSI courses and can speak both without having to think at all. In Italian I speak about a word every second and have to slowly build the sentences up. I have tried everything with Italian: Pimsleur, Assimil, Michel Thomas, La lingua Italiana per stranieri etc. I credit these courses with giving me very good comprehension and reading and writing abilities, but I can barely put together a sentence. I have found that I need the brutal audio-lingual method used by the US government and universities in the 1960s. Surely some sort of course must exist for Italian that has tons of tapes and drills? I have courses for German, French, Spanish, Czech, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Russian and Japanese (most FSI or DLI) that all follow this method of tons of drills to learn a language properly. I have even found a course for Slovenian which has more tapes than I have ever been able to find with Italian. Surely there must be something out there... Please help! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6381 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 15 09 November 2011 at 1:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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That's a good question and I don't have good answer. There are a couple of other US government-developed courses at fsi-language-courses. Have you taken a look at them? Edited by newyorkeric on 09 November 2011 at 1:26pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5849 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 15 09 November 2011 at 1:35pm | IP Logged | ||
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Salve orignal poster!
I have an Italian grammar exercise book, it's like a textbook. You can see it on a Dutch website with its ISBN, should you be interested to buy it in Italy. Nuova Grammatica Italiana per Stranieri - Level 3 Buon successo! Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5785 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 5 of 15 10 November 2011 at 2:27am | IP Logged | ||
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I don't speak Italian and I don't know if this will help, but...
There are a few such courses available, bookmarked at the excellent https://sites.google.com/site/soyouwanttolearnalanguage/home but without the tapes. Now, if you could persuade or pay an Italian to do the drills with you... EDIT: for some odd reason there seem to be a lot of good courses with a German base, I also found a good one with a Spanish (DeAgostini) or Portuguese (Globo) base. Any use at all? Edited by Random review on 10 November 2011 at 2:45am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SaYwHt2 Triglot Newbie Belgium Joined 5600 days ago 9 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English, German, French Studies: Italian, Russian, Dutch, Swedish, Croatian, Slovenian | Message 6 of 15 11 November 2011 at 10:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi all,
Thank you all for the responses! I have downloaded the FSI Fast course - Looks more promising than the horrible FSI Programmatic Italian course, but still seems like it won't go beyond A2. There is an Italian bookshop near me and I will also look at the book that Fasulye posted. Random Review - What are the courses with a German base? If they are good I am of course interested and have already learnt another language from a German base, so no issue there! If there is anything with a French base that would work as well. Both are easy for me to get here in Belgium. Best 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SaYwHt2 Triglot Newbie Belgium Joined 5600 days ago 9 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English, German, French Studies: Italian, Russian, Dutch, Swedish, Croatian, Slovenian | Message 7 of 15 09 May 2012 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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In case anyone was wondering: I finished the FSI Fast Italian Course recently. It was alright I would say. It allowed me to practice a bit, but the drills were very easy and half of each lesson's audio content is usually a vocabulary list that lasts over ten minutes on the tape (out of 30 minutes lesson time). One thing that really annoyed me is that they used a native English speaker with a strong accent in almost every dialogue as the main male speaker, and then out of nowhere (lesson 15 or something) they started to sprinkle in a male native speaker every now and then. Why would you do that? It really bothered me. I would say that the course does not go beyond somewhere between A1/A2.
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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4667 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 8 of 15 13 May 2012 at 1:31am | IP Logged | ||
Have you looked at Pimsleur or Michel Thomas? They're expensive new but they seem to be available cheaply 2nd hand. My only experience with them has been with the Japanese ones but if the Italian ones have as much repetition you should certainly get plenty of audio practice. If you weren't in Rome right now I'd suggest a Skype language partner. Given that you are in Rome, buy a newspaper each morning and strike up a short conversation ("Il Corriere per piacere. Sembra che fara` bel tempo oggi ...") and repeat for your morning coffee and lunch and ... It'll be just like a language course but cheaper :-) I wouldn't normally suggest game shows but there seem to be a glut of them on Rai right now and there's often a decent amount of general chit-chat going on between the host and the guest(s). Admittedly you won't be able to interact, but there should be plenty of material you can pick up and store away for later use. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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