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maydayayday Pentaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5222 days ago 564 posts - 839 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, SpanishB2, FrenchB2 Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), Russian, Swedish, Turkish, Polish, Persian, Vietnamese Studies: Urdu
| Message 577 of 713 08 June 2012 at 10:37pm | IP Logged |
Sorry to be late to the party - I missed the little spat last night because I was entertaining guests.
SolfridChristina presented the challenge - so 'snaps' to her for that.
We all bulled it up in all kinds of ways but it is what it is: that is a challenge to do more of what you do to improve your L2.
My view on the rules quoting SolfridCristina but in a different order: unless you are a first year undergrad in an 'ab initio' L2 or a DLI conscript, I suggest that
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So the basic rules - which trump all other rules are:
- Have fun
- Stay motivated
- Do as much as you can
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- And the Golden Rule - when in doubt use your own best judgement.
I have huge respect for anyone who reads 100 x 100 pages of poetry, or lyrics.
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| Tamise Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom jllrr.wordpress.com/ Joined 5246 days ago 115 posts - 161 votes Speaks: English*, German, Dutch Studies: French, Japanese, Spanish
| Message 578 of 713 10 June 2012 at 1:32pm | IP Logged |
Folks doing more than one language (either Super or Advanced) - how do you find it? Not time-wise, but in that you're splitting your focus?
I'm semi-thinking of doing a half-challenge in French. My other main languages right now are Dutch and German. German is definitely too high, and Dutch probably is in terms of reading and listening. I learnt French at school to the highest level there (Scottish CSYS, roughly A Level, though maybe a little higher) but haven't done much since as every time I decide to go for it, I get distracted by something else. It's one of the languages I've always wanted to get good it, but have never really wanted to study, so this seems like a good way to do it given I need the external motivation to keep it up. I've a fair number of books, and DVDs either of actual French movies/tv or with dubs, and will be in Brussels next month, so could easily get more. I'm a little concerned that it'll weaken the effect on my Japanese though - any thoughts?
Thanks!
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5398 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 579 of 713 10 June 2012 at 2:05pm | IP Logged |
Tamise wrote:
Folks doing more than one language (either Super or Advanced) - how do you find it? Not time-wise, but in that you're splitting your focus?
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I would be splitting my focus, whether or not I was doing the Super Challenge. In fact, when I signed up for the Super Challenge with Spanish and French, I felt like my other focus languages were getting ignored. So I upped the ante and signed up for all of them. I actually find that it gives me more focus, because it gives me specific goals for each of my languages.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 580 of 713 10 June 2012 at 3:29pm | IP Logged |
Well, as I see it, there are two ways to do immersion on your own (call it artificial if you want):
-All (one language) All The Time, reaching fluency and only then starting the next one (as the AJATT guy advocates)
-Everything In Foreign Languages All The Time. That's what I do. Most of my languages are a clear part of my lifestyle, and the similar ones keep one another alive even if I don't do anything for some time.
Also, I know I'll be switching my focus, and the shorter challenges like 6WC and Tadoku /should/ help here.
Do you like the materials you have? I think the main problem is that you just might not study anyway, given that you can just improve your score by doing more Japanese. It's kinda like with me and German... I know that to improve properly I need to do the 6WC and/or Tadoku in it (only in it). I'm hoping for some calm steady improvement though. :)
If you're motivated to do Japanese, you'll be doing it. And if you do it you'll improve. So don't worry about it :-)
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 581 of 713 10 June 2012 at 3:36pm | IP Logged |
Kerrie wrote:
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Good point! Same here :-) It also gives me focus in terms of focusing on "just" six languages. I've not even felt the full effect of that because the 6WC was on, but I imagine it's going to be an even more important factor when Polish no longer has such a HUGE priority.
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| Tamise Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom jllrr.wordpress.com/ Joined 5246 days ago 115 posts - 161 votes Speaks: English*, German, Dutch Studies: French, Japanese, Spanish
| Message 582 of 713 13 June 2012 at 12:58pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for your thoughts on this both - think I'm just going to go for it. Even if I only read/watch a little more French than I would have otherwise, it'll be a victory.
I've started reading a Maigret novel and am finding it pretty good so far.
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5398 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 583 of 713 14 June 2012 at 4:27am | IP Logged |
Cristina, are you aware they you have inspired more than 70 people to sign up for this crazy challenge? I think that's amazing. :D
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5337 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 584 of 713 14 June 2012 at 8:08am | IP Logged |
Kerrie wrote:
Cristina, are you aware they you have inspired more than 70 people to sign up for this crazy challenge? I
think that's amazing. :D
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I had not counted them, but I am really happy that so many people have found it useful to participate :-)
Most of the honor should however go to Sprachprofi who inspired me with her 6WC.
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